Irwin FTDNA January 2020
Armstrong Elwald, Mark Elliott 3/11/2015 PDF
Aliot-Elwald, Mark Elliott 7/15/2013 PDF
Lands of Horseliehill and Stobs, Relations of William of Horsliehill, Gavin of Stobs MSE 2013 PDF
Clan Crozier 1-6 Clan Crozier 7-13 MSE PDF
A1 Clade Report PDF
Gorrenberry Jubilee Wood
Background
Gorrenberry is an ecological restoration project which aims to restore much of the biodiversity of a substantial area in the Scottish Southern Uplands, while maintaining a varied pattern of economic activity at a sustainable level.
In 2011 Gorrenberry was a 935 hectare hill farm including four dwellings and two groups of steadings on the Hermitage Water, Roxburghshire, Scottish Borders (55.266827N, 2.845836W). It was purchased in March 2011 by Jane Bower and Ken Lyall. The farm is approximately 20 miles south of Hawick and is reached by the unclassified road between the A7 and the B6399 signposted to Hermitage Castle.
Gorrenberry Jubilee Wood
Background
Gorrenberry is an ecological restoration project which aims to restore much of the biodiversity of a substantial area in the Scottish Southern Uplands, while maintaining a varied pattern of economic activity at a sustainable level.
In 2011 Gorrenberry was a 935 hectare hill farm including four dwellings and two groups of steadings on the Hermitage Water, Roxburghshire, Scottish Borders (55.266827N, 2.845836W). It was purchased in March 2011 by Jane Bower and Ken Lyall. The farm is approximately 20 miles south of Hawick and is reached by the unclassified road between the A7 and the B6399 signposted to Hermitage Castle.
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Johnnie Armstrong (Roud 76; Child 169) Mainly Norfolk: English Folk
A-1 Clade report/ R-L193 PDF
Elliot Ancestors of New England and many points west, compiled by Loren S. Elliott(pdf)
Appendix-H-Rowell-Charles-Carroll.pdf – Clan Crozier
Chronicles of the Armstrongs; : Armstrong, James Lewis :Internet Archive.org 1902
A Hawick Word Book by Douglas Scott PDF
Chronicles of the Armstrongs; : Armstrong, James Lewis MD : Internet Archive.org
Chronicles of the Armstrongs; : Armstrong, James Lewis MD : Internet Archive.org
Chronicles of the Armstrongs; : Armstrong, James Lewis MD : Internet Archive.org
Chronicles of the Armstrongs; : Armstrong, James Lewis MD : Internet Archive.org
https://www.bing.com/search?q=barbados+scots
Bing Videos-Die irischen Zuckersklaven von Barbados
Genealogy Garage: Scottish Prisoners of War youtube
Involuntary Americans: Scottish Prisoners in 17th Century Maine youtube
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3453303?dpr=2&fit=max&h=572&w=590 Still think the border should have went between Texas and New Mexico, instead of Old and New Mexico. Feel the ‘Bruce’ family may have for some reason been driven out of Annandale. For accuracy in genealogy, science, and communicating with indigenous populations you do not silence people, you believe in them. Harvard type of education system of witch hangings to silence people still exists in America today, prime example one administrator and be in 25 of more FTDNA administrative blogs feeling because of the Harvard style of authority gives the authority to kick those carrying the Y-DNA off the blog. This creates extremely false and dictatorial Harvard witch hanging style of information not anything close to an accurate output by genealogists, scientist or people of an indigenous, nature. Only creating ‘lab rats’ for ‘Harvard studies’, out of people from people expending a lot of their family income to find family members. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Zacatecas,+Mexico/@22.9007814,-106.3127277,6z/ The Bell and the Elliot rode with the Armstrong, and the Bauld Buccleuch in 1596 to rescue Kinmont Willie Armstrong from Carlisle Castle. Those families like their freedoms, and that is why some which are Portuguese many today Brazilian, prefer to live in indigenous populations, even the ones named ‘Bell’, referred today as Melungeons. https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Melungeons-Bell.jpg
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3464337?dpr=2&fit=max&h=526&w=590 Felt bad since my father’s Loren Spencer Elliott’s birthday is the day before Saint Patrick Day, a very important, a lot more so important in Armerica then that Saint Andrews Day, forgeting the Kirkpatrick, and their E-M35 Y-DNA which has seemed to spread among, Ervin, Irwin, and Irvin. Do you know what a Saint Andrews uses to drive those snakes out of Ireland. He used a crozier. Symbolizing the cane a Navajo grandma ‘shima’, in dealing with young sheep could hook the neck of a lamb with. Clan Crozier, like the Armstrong, Elliott, and Nixon, are a Scottish Middle March Clan. Yes, Saint Patrick is of the Gaelic, people of Scotland and Ireland, and some of them like the US president’s mother are known to genetically have red hair. It is said those dang Vikings maybe with that I-YDNA gave it to them. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3436456?dpr=2&fit=max&h=357&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3458850?dpr=2&fit=max&h=389&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3436413?dpr=2&fit=max&h=625&w=590 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochmaben_Castle just east of Lockerbie. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/kirkpatrick/dna-results https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/calhoun/dna-results https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/humphrey/dna-results Johns(t)on(e) also; https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/johnson/about/background https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Kirkpatrick from region also. Clan Johnston youtube film; https://youtu.be/tgfkXZnFOqA There are a lot of things around the Irving tower at Bonshaw for Irwin and all those other feuding surnames listed with them from around the world would want to visit.
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FTDNA #101829 R-M269 > U106 > BY30097 > S12025 > S16361 > A6719 > A672-2&4 https://www.familytreedna.com/public/U106?iframe=yresults
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3461419?dpr=2&fit=max&h=325&w=590 1. A bridge over a stream, gutter, etc. Early examples occur in place-names, as Prestesbrige (c 1150), Risibrigg (c 1240), Hatherbrig, Scatbrig or -breg, and as a first element in Brigham (c 1190), Briggate (c 1266), Brighous (1337; cf. BARB. XVII. 409), Bryghend (1359). https://dsl.ac.uk/entry/dost/brig_n A. n. 1. A person’s dwelling-place, or native country. Also fig. in lang hame, the grave. https://dsl.ac.uk/entry/dost/hame_n_1 DSL Dictionary of the Scottish Language. Brigham, East Riding of Yorkshire Historical description Brigham, a village and a township in Foston-on-the-Wolds parish, in the E.R. Yorkshire, near the Hull and Scarborough railway, 4½ miles SE of Great Driffield. Acreage of township, 1398; population, 73. There is a Wesleyan chapel. Transcribed from The Comprehensive Gazetteer of England & Wales, 1894-5 https://ukga.org/england/Yorkshire/ERY/towns/Brigham.html UK Genealogical Archives. Brigham Surname Definition: (English) One who came from Brigham (homestead by the bridge), the name of places in Cumberland and Yorkshire. https://forebears.io/surnames/brigham
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Glenn Erwin
I am in this group of 13, can you explain this so I can better understand?
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Erwin in US seems to have a basic Pennsylvania towards Missouri, and Carolinas to Texas migration.
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Y-DNA Surname Projects – Some Fresh Ideas Published on Nov 30, 2015 56 of 66 James Irvine’s presentation on YDNA Surname projects from the 2015 https://www.slideshare.net/FamilyTreeDNA/y-dna-surname-projects-some-fresh-ideas Typo; FCG to FGC34569
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For me to have an exact match at twelve markers with a Native American, would mean immigrant Daniel Elliot, would have a Native American wife, which he chose to raise the oldest named after him from. The wife would also have a son of Daniel’s. This would go beyond an autosomal match of about eight or nine generations, and would be at approximately twelve generations. If raised many generations by people Native to America after awhile they would look pretty pure bread, and be taken to be Native from America. This is likely the reason I have not been able to locate immigrants Daniel’s wife. Likely for the arranged family of his half native son, to a daughter of the son of seaman John Cloyse, his son Peter, which brought family to America. Otter Neck to build home and mill as an indenture. https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/5/5a/Elliot-1211-1.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Stone-Grants-in-Sudbury-History-1.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Otter-Neck-attended-Sudbury-Church.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Alexander-Gordon-John-and-Daniel-Stone-Thomas-Kemble-and-Daniel-Elliot.jpg
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Glenn Erwin 3 hours ago I am in this group of 13, can you explain this so I can better understand? Three groupings Yellow, Green, and Blue. All would test SNP R-FGC34569 http://danasgenealogy.com/2019/03/24/likely-y-dna-haplogroups-for-surnames-in-my-tree/ Irwin (Scotch-Irish) likely belonged to haplogroup R-FGC34569 which is also in R-M269. It is downstream of L555 which is clearly identified with the “Border Irwins” on the L21 Descendent Tree. http://danasgenealogy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Border-Irwins.png FGC34569 Tree; R-M269 > P312/S116 > Z290 > L21/S145 > DF13 > Z39589 > Z251/S470 > Z16943 > Z16944 > L555 > FGC34569. For the Yellow to Blue group, if of anyone listed, then you are downstream R-FGC34569, and do not have to pay for the BIG-Y. If you want to be classified as R-FGC34569 it is the only SNP you need test for. Yellow Group, Irwin/Erwin Green Group; Edward Irwin Blue Group; Of likely Ulster (the Williams), William Erwin, William Ervin/Irvin, William Irwin, James Irvine likely still of Scotland. 1630 Ulster Muster surname is Irwin. The Irwin are of Ulster. Erwin, are from Bonshaw Tower region but came into Ulster after 1630. http://www.therjhuntercollection.com/resources/muster-rolls-c-1630/search-muster-rolls/ Encourage people to put in names Irvin, Irwin, Ervin, Erwin, Irvine, and others to see results from 1630 Ulster search. Also https://named.publicprofiler.org/ for census concentration ‘hotspot’ localities of given names. Looks like in the Ulster Plantation era the surname Irwin was used then soon after in the Belfast region maybe to differentiate the name Erwin was added. Though indication before 1890 Erwin was also a name used in Germany (Prussia); https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Erwin https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:William,1890:Will,1890:Wills,1890:Wilsen https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Robert,1890:Rob,1890:Robin First ten Clan Elliot chiefs were named Robert Elwald; Ewald is closest I find to Elwald. https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Robert,1890:Ewald
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3458221?dpr=2&fit=max&h=367&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SELLING-SCOTS-AS-SLAVES-IS-FUNNY-TO-THE-TORIES-2.mp4?_=1 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Scottish-Barbados-Indentures.mp4?_=2 https://www.scotsman.com/news-2-15012/guy-hewitt-barbados-remembers-scots-heritage-on-st-andrew-s-day-1-4304565 17. Daniel Ellot/Elliot of Ulster/Massachusetts 18. Daniel Elliot Salem Trials 19. Johnathan Sr 20. Johnathan Jr 21. John 22. Comfort Elliott 23. SA (Sherburn Amando) 24. AW (Amando Wilcox) 25. Mark 26. Loren Spencer 27. Mark Stephen b.1949 Chief Elliot 29 is Margaret Eliott. She, I assure you wears a steel bonnet and refers to me as a ‘vagabond’, so my life may be at stake for telling you this. She is born in 1948, but less than a year older than me. Grandma and father, like for me great family historians. Dad had a twin sister, did not say much to her, but knew what she was thinking. So guess I am in ‘big trouble now’. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Reiver-Trail-Magaret-Eliott-chief.mp4 Descended from a most notorious border reiver; Clementis Hobs (IE Clement Crozier’s sister’s son Robert Elliott), sons Robert and younger Daniel, exiled from both of the kingdoms of England and Scotland before 1610. Robert to Anglican part of County Armagh, as a Baillee (Hamilton, estate legal admin), and Dand a tullycaulter (IE legal accountant type for Somerville wife Hamilton estate, of Monea Mrs Hamilton 1630 muster). Family line is certainly the ‘black sheep’ line. Seaman John Cloyse, had son from his first wife, Peter, who’s first daughter, Hannah ‘Anna’, was named after mother Hannah ‘Anna’ Littlefield. When Peter remarried, Hannah ‘Anna’, was the oldest sibling a daughter in the household. a step daughter to Sarah Town Bridges Cloyse, two of her sisters were hung as witches in Salem, became refugees to Salem End. Father immigrant Daniel Elliot moved to Boston, left house he first built as Saxonville Framingham Mill, dam still there, for son when first married to Hannah, which has first child named Daniel also not in Framingham vitals. Since Daniel Elliot of the Testimony lost a child, and a spectra of Wm Hobs was blamed they would not be accused as being witches. Peter son of seaman John Cloyse which brought immigrant Daniel to America, was open for his oldest a step daughter of his first wife to leave the house, so he knew that Daniel, half native American by his mother born from 1663-1665, could be family arranged. The mothers Native American DNA goes beyond autosomal, but she likely also had a son by Daniel raised among her people. That is why native people are reporting that they match my Y-DNA at 12 markers. That Y-DNA Native American match is likely about a 12th cousin of mine, descended from immigrant Daniel Elliot, father to Daniel Elliot of the testimony. My DNA nor his is not Native American, for it goes beyond his recorded word of mouth time, and for all practical purpose he is Native American. Always said dad was Native American, but it looks like a Native American from 1660-70, has his Y-DNA in him. Likely some black South Africans do to. Don’t worry about those Tory-Loyalists, they are the ones family strung up and tarred and feathered around 1776. https://loc.getarchive.net/media/the-torys-day-of-judgment-e-tisdale-del-et-sculpt Library Of Congress Public Domain Archive Part of PICRYL.com. Not developed or endorsed by the Library of Congress Illustration shows colonists preparing to tar and feather a loyalist seated on the ground as another loyalist hangs from a gallows with a rope around his waist . If the ‘Torys’, can laugh at transporting my relatives as slaves to the colonies, I can laugh at string them up. This is what a ‘couple’ of the ‘slaves’, of the Scottish Middle March can do; a Nixon and an Armstrong; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/President-Nixon-speaking-with-astronauts-Armstrong-and-Aldrin-on-the-Moon.mp4 So you ‘Torys’, can laugh all you want to about us Anglican-Royalist Charles II, ‘slaves’, just keep on laughing. We like the Irish it is border being put through our families like one of the Armstong-Elliott-Nixon, of County Fermanagh-Tyrone, Ulster, though I know there is a Unionist Elliott, there, but we do not need another border between our families, or Elliott, needing to put their bonnet’s back on.
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3456651?dpr=2&fit=max&h=837&w=590 “Meanwhile, the discoverer of DNA, Dr. James Watson, and along with him, the other scientist who together were the first to have their DNA mapped, Dr. Craig Venter, and along with them, the notable advocate for Genetic Genealogy, Dr. Spencer Wells, are all members of Haplogroup R1b-U106 via it’s major branch L48. We accept the publicity benefit these folks bring to R1b-U106.” https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/u106/about/background “19624 GRP 4-Michael b.c1740 Kent Co.RI United Kingdom R-M269” ‘deceased’ (L48) https://www.familytreedna.com/public/SPENCER?iframe=yresults Dad’s; Loren Spencer Elliott’s mom. My grandma’s; Ilah Spencer Elliott, her father’s DNA. https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle Note, the differences in translations between the English and the German, Clans of Armstrong and Elliot, on Wikipedia. My ancestors did something about it in 1776. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Armstrong https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Armstrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Eliott https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Elliot Between 1890 and 1996, it looks like Armstrong and Elliott have moved into the region once referred to as West Germany. https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Armstrong,1996:Armstrong,1890:Elliott,1996:Elliott
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https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:ewald,1890:finck https://named.publicprofiler.org/ https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/31/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/77/mode/2up/search/elk https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/wild-elks-return-to-germany-a-853581.html https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Alford-Elwald-Ewald.jpg
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This is what Lucio of Dunbar and Cocklaw from Brazil and I have been able to put together. Good demand on it. https://gorrenberry.com/dunbar-and-cocklaw/
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3453303?dpr=2&fit=max&h=572&w=590 https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/irwin/activity-feed This is what someone from New Mexico has to put up with is those cowboys from Texas, called Dunbar, at least I have a Brazilian Native American King Robert de Bruce which speaks Portuguese to help me out with my family genealogy. Both are families were likely on the side of Queen Marie of Scots, because both The Hermitage and Dunbar Castle were of her kingdom, but we fought as Royalist for Charles II, on death bed Catholic. His family at The Battle of Dunbar, which was lucky and ended up in Brazil, and mine not so lucky ended up with the Harvard which think they know it all a would not though they think they do listen to a Portuguese speaking Native American from Brazil, who I from living among Native Americans from the southwest United States are quite honest even though he may be related to that Dunbar cowboy from Texas. My family knows that Harvard Puritans hang witches to silence people. Genealogy today on PBS is broadcast out of Harvard, but the only school in the United States to have a four year degree program in genealogy is Brigham Young University. Is PBS being utilized to suppress religion freedom and silence qualified and superior knowledge on properly done genealogy coming out of Brigham Young University? Harvard hung people has hung witches to silence them. Many of the Mormons are descended from people from these trials. US Public Broadcast System is being utilized to again symbolically in their form of genealogy as Harvard has done in the past to ‘hang witches’. If you want the best in genealogy broadcast for educational purposes you would broadcast out of Brigham Young University.
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https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Kirkpatrick from region also. Clan Johnston youtube film; https://youtu.be/tgfkXZnFOqA
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3452386?dpr=2&fit=max&h=616&w=590 https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about Want to call then the Mormon Moms, or Moms for short. If you do not know how good they are as genealogists, let along geneticists you where not raised as a Mormon male, like I, but when utilizing the Family History Library, in Salt Lake City, Utah, you do not want to be drilled by a mom, as a family genealogist. https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied/
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https://www.familytreedna.com/public/U106?iframe=ycolorized Maybe there is a reason that I am being barred from FTDNA R-U106.
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3449606?dpr=2&fit=max&h=301&w=590 The History of Liddesdale, Eskdale, Ewesdale, Wauchopedale and the …, Volume 1 By Robert Bruce Armstrong https://books.google.com/books?id=nFr7oQEACAAJ&pg=PA65&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false The history of Enniskillen with reference to some manors in co. Fermanagh, and other local subjects by Trimble, William Copeland, 1851-1941 https://archive.org/details/historyofenniski00trimrich/page/218 ‘Sheep stealers from the north of England’: the Riding Clans in Ulster by Robert Bell https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ The Mapping of Ulster-Scots https://www.libraryireland.com/gregg/images/mapping-ulster-scots-9.jpg https://www.libraryireland.com/gregg/mapping-ulster-scots.php Muster Roll for Tullyhogue (Tullaghoge) 1610 – Transcribed by Teena http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland/genealogy/muster/tullyhogue1610.html
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https://indo-european.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/haplogroup-r1b-u106.png https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Ewald Alistair Moffat; https://www.google.com/maps/place/Moffat,+UK/@55.3787235,-3.5903311,11.29z/ https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/The-Reivers-Making-of-the-Borders-Alistair-Moffat-2.mp4 Referenced a book Alistair Moffat, plus have it on order, we are both Allied to the Armstrong, and I am hoping you Alistair are looking in on that John Elwald early rector of Saint Andrews, and rector of Kirkandrews and feel he left some DNA off in a McConnell. https://gorrenberry.com/john-elwald-1418-rector-st-andrews-conn-mcconnell-mccall-dna-kirkinner-carnesmole/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Armstrong Clan Armstrong has no chief, and is an armigerous clan Historic seat Mangerton Last Chief Archibald Armstrong of Mangerton Died 1610 Allied clans Clan Elliot Clan Moffat Clan Crozier http://clancrozier.com/
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https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Hansen,1890:Hanson,1890:Peterson https://forebears.io/surnames/peterson https://forebears.io/surnames/hansen https://forebears.io/surnames/hanson John Wilkinson December 2 @ 9:50am If anyone knows of any Hinson/Hanson or Pedersen/Peterson lines in Northumberland, please comment below, preferably with a means to contact them. Many thanks. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/northumberland-england/activity-feed
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The ‘People of the British Isles’ project and Viking settlement in England Part of: The Vikings Jane Kershaw and Ellen C. Røyrvik Press: 21 November 2016 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/people-of-the-british-isles-project-and-viking-settlement-in-england/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63 https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63/S0003598X16001939a.pdf/people_of_the_british_isles_project_and_viking_settlement_in_england.pdf https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/britain_ireland_dna.shtml With this bull headed moose, having a finch think for him anything can get accomplished. Looks like you took the Irish Anglicized Gaelic Smith route, and I ended up with the notorious Young John or should of say John Young route of the Anglo-Border Scots, to get into the North part of Ireland. Brigham ‘This is the Place’ genealogy with DNA applied … https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied The family knows best. Listen to others, especially of the opposite sex, to make family. Do not in a family search, get rid of the in-laws, though you may want to. Families fight, and likely not just one answer is correct, in the history. See all full list on elwald.com
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https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Armstrong-Border-Pacification-Genocide-BBC.mp4 Sasine/Deed, land passed from ‘Angus’ onto ‘Redheugh’. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sasine_deed_1484_for_Robert_Elwald_%28Elliot%29,_Redheugh,_Larriston,_Hartsgarth.jpg ‘Willielmo Elwaldo de goranbery’-‘Wilielmo elwad de gouinbery’ William Elwald (ie Elliott) of Gorrenberry, my many great grandfather. https://archive.org/details/annalsabordercl00tancgoog/page/n178 http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/photogallery/stbrides/IMG_3575.JPG https://douglashistory.ning.com/m/profile?screenName=1js99a7d4la5l The Heart of James Douglas ‘The Good’ & Robert the Bruce https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRtWYtxATBg https://douglashistory.ning.com/m/profile?screenName=1js99a7d4la5l Burial place of Robert the Bruce’s heart – Melrose Abbey https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9d/c5/21/9dc521a370f0eb45a94abd6a314028f4.jpg Gorrenberry stood up for the lands of Redheugh, when Buccleuch questioned ownership; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Sasine.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Buccleuch-acquiring-Mangerto-of-Thomas-Armstrong-in-1482-1024×233.jpg A Thomas Armstrong of Mangerton had lands to the west of Gorrenberry referred as ‘Billhope’. https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Armistrang-Armstrong-in-Billhope-Elwald-Ellot-in-Gorrenberry-Braidlie-1024×482.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Buccleuch-lands-of-Mangerton-Gorrenberry-Whithaugh-and-Elliot-of-Midlem-mill.png https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Buccleuch-lands-of-Mangerton-Gorrenberry-Whithaugh-and-Elliot-of-Midlemmill-1024×787.png
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Could they have moved when the violence ‘The Troubles’, was going on along the County Fermanagh border? Guess if there is any hardening of the border, people of County Femanagh may want to move to Germany to get away from violence. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3441022?dpr=2&fit=max&h=234&w=590 https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1996:Maguire,1996:McManus,1996:Johnston,1996:Armstrong,1996:Elliott https://named.publicprofiler.org/
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https://named.publicprofiler.org/ “The Clan MacAlister is on of the principal branches of Clan Donald and descends from the thirteenth-century Alexander, brother of Angus Mór and son of Donald, the eponymous ancestor of the MacDonalds. Donald was the grandson of Somerled of Argyll. As such the clan is Irish by origin, Somerled being a descendant of Collas of Oriel. The clan territory was Kintyre and they were also numerous in Arran and Bute. From this region the MacAlisters where brought to northeast Ulster by the MacDonnels in the fourteenth century. They are one of the great galloglass families of Ireland.” The Book of Ulster Surnames, by Robert Bell pages 128-9. In US in 1880; 3,304 McAlisters (mainly NC&PA), 55,787 McAllisters (mainly PA&NY) https://forebears.io/surnames/mcalister https://forebears.io/surnames/mcallister Even though Bryant McAllister is not at ISU, something for him to think about.
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J. Craig Trentor’s father died at the age of 59, a ‘Jack Mormon’, which over drank and smoked. Craig is 73, and carries the same R-U106 SNP as I do. https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied/ The question people are asking do I carry the mtDNA of the greatest liar for his day in the world. The one which insisted the the sun was at the center of the solar system? Answer I would give; “there is not enough information to confirm it, or deny it to this date”. Byrant, instead of UI should it not be IU? As far as the family history is concerned. THE FAMILY KNOWS BEST. Can not believe those Red Earth (Red-huegh, land of Chief Elliot) Mesquakie Nation people, wanted to live in Iowa so much they purchased land there, and traded downstream learning German from the people of the Amanas. It is from their language base, the Americans, use the word ‘moose’, and the English the word ‘elk’ is from the German. Who would ever would want to live on the Iowa River anyway?
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Above Erwin, migrating likely off a ship from Belfast to America, Pennsylvania, or the Carolinas. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3438996?dpr=2&fit=max&h=312&w=590
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3438825?dpr=2&fit=max&h=291&w=590 https://named.publicprofiler.org/ https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1996:Bell,1890:Bell https://forebears.io/surnames/bell https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/bell-dna-project/about/background https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/wild-elks-return-to-germany-a-853581.html https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1996:Erwin,1890:Erwin
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3438736?dpr=2&fit=max&h=295&w=590 Surnames migrate with each other, and when a language changes from Scots Gaelic to Scots English, names from the adopted language are adopted, as happen with the Navajo de Apache (Navajo of the Apache now Navajo, somewhat like, John de Ashton, John of Ashton, now John Ashton) surnames. First being introduced to having surnames then to the Spanish and onto the American English.
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Migration into West Germany of Border names before 1996. https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1996:Humphrey,1996:Kirkpatrick,1996:Calhoun,1996:Irwin,1996:Irvine,1996:Johnston
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3437174?dpr=2&fit=max&h=308&w=590 Wonder how that E-M35 came up to the borderlands. Could it possibly come up from the London (Wendover) region?
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Steve Erwin likes this
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Roger de Kilpatrick Closeburn Castle Stephen de Kilpartrick Closeburn Castle 1290 (Kirkpatrick). Johnstone Bridge of Johnstone Parish, Lochmaben Castle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochmaben_Castle , Castle O’er, Lockerbie, Irvine Bonshaw Tower, and Kirkpatrick-Fleming, Scotland in the same region.
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http://jogg.info/pages/72/files/Estes.pdf https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3435823?dpr=2&fit=max&h=329&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Dunbar-Cockburn.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Armstrong-Graham-Bell-Ellot-Elliot-Scot-Scott-rescue-of-Kinmont-Willie..jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Scott-Bell-Elliott-U106-Y-DNA1.png Sometimes native people to America may like Zuñi, which Coronado attacked in 1540, living south of where I live, may show people around some southwest ruins such as Chaco Canyon. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Wetherill-Brothers-Antiquities-Act.png People will wonder ‘where are these people’, when there is one standing in front of them. Myself I carry R1b1b2 (R-M269), am a subclade, R1b1a1a2a1a1 (R-U106), and Bell, Elliott, Scott, and Johnston, are of that subclade. In 1596 Scott, Bell, and Elliott, were in on the rescue of Kinmont Willie Armstrong from Carlisle Castle. Lucio Gomes, speaks Portuguese, he is from Brazil, and is using a translator to communicate on these blogs. He has Dunbar blood in him, which is a close match to Cockburn, blood, of R-U106. Dunbar, and The Hermitage which my family defended were castles of Marie Stuart, Catholic Queen of Scotland which the Scottish Middle March families, of Armstrong, Elliott, Nixon, and Crozier are of. From are group about a half century ago a Nixon talked by phone to an Armstrong on the moon. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/President-Nixon-speaking-with-astronauts-Armstrong-and-Aldrin-on-the-Moon.mp4 Both Lucio Gomes, and my family fought on the same side of Stewart king Charles II as Anglican Royalist, (Duke of Buccleuch, and Prince Williams understand are descendants). Lucio’s ancestor I fell fought at Dunbar, and going through formally Portuguese Barbados ended up in Brazil. My family family fought at the Battle of Worcester and ended up in the Colony of Massachusetts with Puritans. Some ended up in the West Indies, and moved into what is now the southeastern United States. It is felt because of their skin coloration they did not want to be put into slavery, so they moved among the indigenous population. The county which I live a majority are Navajo of an indigenous American population. The first Elliot indentured POW from the Cromwellian Civil War, help build a mill in what is now Saxonville, north Farmingham, Massachusetts living among the native population. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SELLING-SCOTS-AS-SLAVES-IS-FUNNY-TO-THE-TORIES-2.mp4 Even today the Tories of the UK Parliament think it is funny to transport Scots as Slaves to The Colonies.
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3435583?dpr=2&fit=max&h=567&w=590 The Gatehouse website record of JHÕSTON (ADDED) (JOHNSTON) a location shown on a 1590 map of the West Marches of Scotland (The Aglionby Platt) In the civil parish of Johnstone. In the historic county of Dumfriesshire, Scotland. Modern Authority of Dumfries And Galloway, Scotland. 1974 county of Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland. OS Map Grid Reference: NY08459678 Latitude 55.25670° Longitude -3.44186° Johnston has been suggested as a location on the Aglionby Platt but is rejected as such. http://www.gatehouse-gazetteer.info/Indexs/APindex.html http://www.gatehouse-gazetteer.info/AP/Jhstonadded.html Note: “In the civil parish of Johnstone.”, it is the Parish which carries the name Johnstone, spelled with an ‘e’. ‘Johnstone’ mainly of “Johnstone Parish”, then of “Johnstone (Castle)”; is Scottish of Scotland, which derives the Ulster Plantation name ‘Johnston’. In the US, if descended from a ‘Johnston’, then family most likely from County Fermanagh, Ulster Plantation of Ireland.
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3434562?dpr=2&fit=max&h=263&w=590 https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Finch?iframe=ycolorized Not everybody gets to be lucky enough to be an elk (moose) related to a finch. Shows a method applicable to the surname Finch, and could be applicable to other surnames also, giving eastern US localities of Connecticut and South Carolina, with utilization of a census distribution surname programs shows indicative directions of westward migration for the Connecticut and South Carolina, Finch groups. Episcopalian-Methodist seems to began showing for non Scottish Connecticut group. https://forebears.io/surnames/finch
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http://www.therjhuntercollection.com/resources/muster-rolls-c-1630/search-muster-rolls/ https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Kirk (Scottish)/Kil(Gaelic influenced) Patrick. ‘The church of Saint Patrick’. http://clancrozier.com/
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3433559?dpr=2&fit=max&h=356&w=590 https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/ https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/people-of-the-british-isles-project-and-viking-settlement-in-england/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63 PoBI Garrett Hellanthal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ANNHMzmxlI&t=423s
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3432696?dpr=2&fit=max&h=415&w=590 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kirkpatrick-Fleming,+Lockerbie+DG11+3NH,+UK/@55.0281384,-3.1566848,13.19z/ https://maps.nls.uk/view/00000402#zoom=5&lat=3477&lon=5926&layers=BT https://named.publicprofiler.org/ https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3432692?dpr=2&fit=max&h=355&w=590 http://www.therjhuntercollection.com/resources/muster-rolls-c-1630/search-muster-rolls/ https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3432594?dpr=2&fit=max&h=211&w=590 https://elwald.com/peace-on-the-border-2/kirkpatrick-colquhoun-colhoun/
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3431902?dpr=2&fit=max&h=505&w=590 https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Scarborough-Stuteville.jpg https://www.familytreedna.com/public/scarborough?iframe=ycolorized In the ‘ungrouped’ you can see the ‘Elwald’ elk (moose) of the forest’, is related to a ‘finch’.
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3431876?dpr=2&fit=max&h=262&w=590 Border Reivers FTDNA Administrator James Elliott Westmorland and Cumberland, 1576. Saxton map. http://www.geog.port.ac.uk/webmap/thelakes/html/maps/sax9.htm
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City of Kingston upon Hull 53, near Cottingham, high concentration of Irvin. https://forebears.io/surnames/irvin https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hull,+UK/@53.7556229,-0.4661642,11.46z/
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This is and Anglican-Episcopalian to Methodist, a similar evolution in the religion in the American Colony. Share one off in twenty-five markers with Atkinson. People seem to be taking an interest in it off this blog. (date correction; 1641 for 1642 1/10/2020 MSE)
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https://www.familytreedna.com/public/CaveFamilyHistorySocietyDNA?iframe=yresults https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Gresham_Grissom?iframe=yresults https://www.familytreedna.com/public/scarborough?iframe=yresults Kent Irvin Have 12 marker exact matches with North and South Cave of East Riding, Yorkshire. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3427000?dpr=2&fit=max&h=276&w=590
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Kent Irvin https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3426990?dpr=2&fit=max&h=265&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3257598?dpr=2&fit=max&h=403&w=590 It is possible, that the Wake-Stuteville family brought Irvin from the Cottingham – N&S Cave region to the region those Graham called The Mote, where a Fergus Graham had a peel tower, but previously the Cave-Stuteville-Wake, of lower East Riding Yorkshire, had a moat and bailey castle there called ‘Liddel Strength’, and a manor in Cottingham. https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Scottish-research-mapping-to-US-reference-8.jpg For the ‘Irvin’ surname, migration could have been easily directly form Yorkshire, to the American Colonies.
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https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Erwin https://named.publicprofiler.org/ David Ervin, Though ‘Erwin’ appears in Poland, it is felt this is a completely different independent Y-DNA group entirely. Though it may have influence the base name ‘Irwin’, to evolve and differentiate itself in the Belfast, Ulster, Ireland region into ‘Erwin’.
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David ErvinI noticed a new SNP was added this week to our part of the Haplotree, perhaps the first of many for 2020. When I began this DNA journey in 2013, The Clan Irwin (L555) section of the tree was sparse, but it has really began to expand over the past couple of years. While reliable genealogical records continue to be elusive for my paternal line, the DNA project has given me the satisfaction of knowing that I and my ancestors are a definite part of this family. Best wishes to you all in 2020. David Ervin, #280156
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https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Bj%C3%B8rn,1890:Bj%C3%B6rn https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3425051?dpr=2&fit=max&h=395&w=590 For the Bear, Bjørn, Björn, Born, Burn, Bourn, Borne, Bourn, Osborn, Fairbairn, the Y-DNA I-M253 Viking (add mix) Fairbairn, in the borderlands near the Scott and Elliot. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/people-of-the-british-isles-project-and-viking-settlement-in-england/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63 James M. Irvine, What us Americans say,’the cat got out of the bag’, people are on to us, and realizing what we are coming up with. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3256656?dpr=2&fit=max&h=387&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3256662?dpr=2&fit=max&h=488&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3257598?dpr=2&fit=max&h=403&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/y-dna-surname-projects-some-fresh-ideas-33-1024-1024×768.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Proto-Germanic-DNA-1-7-2020.jpg https://www.google.com/search?q=proto+germanic+dna&rlz=1C1AVNA_enUS566US566&oq=prot&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j69i59l2j69i60l3.3925j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVNA_enUS566US566&biw=1422&bih=680&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNQzRBXKQoYcixlcm_-PvONYC3DK2A%3A1578416809050&sa=1&ei=qboUXqzLAsaUtAact5LoCQ&q=FTDNA+Scott&oq=FTDNA+Scott&gs_l=img.3..35i39.8039.11885..12541…0.0..0.103.1133.12j1……0….1..gws-wiz-img…….0i30j0i67j0j0i5i30j0i24.nt0wihN5Pl8&ved=0ahUKEwjsw9fp_PHmAhVGCs0KHZybBJ0Q4dUDCAc&uact=5 https://elwald.com/scott-ftdna/
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https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/29 Elliots.. ‘elk (moose) of the forest’ https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/wild-elks-return-to-germany-a-853581.html https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/likely-location-for-the-Elwald-Elgwald-Elfwald-region1.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Elwald-Elliot-elk-moose-of-the-forest-wood-.jpg
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3422441?dpr=2&fit=max&h=346&w=590 DNA is another tool for genealogists to use, to narrow the region to search in the documentation for ones family. It is family history which a person does when they do genealogy, and numerical numbers received for DNA data does not give that history, it is the records which do. Genealogy is a shared history between family members, without this sharing of genealogical information ones family history does not get spread. To put the history in hands of so called ‘genealogists’ which hoard information is up to an individual, but if the individual is to learn about themselves and their family, it is better for them as family members to research the history.
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DNA match with Atkinson, of Magheraboy, County Fermanagh, Ulster Plantation, Ireland helps to insure that my family of Daniel Elliot of Tullykelter, is from there; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Martin-Ellot-of-Braidley-Dand-Ellot-of-Braidley-Dand-Ellot-son-to-Clemmentis-Hob.png (Dand Ellot-Scotland, Daniel Elliot-Ulster)
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Many great granddad knew John Ellot of the [lived on chief’s Redheugh land across Riddall (Hermitage Flue)],’wee Jock Ellot’, and Clementis Hob; ie Clement Crozier’s sister son Robert Elliott, of the (William Ellot’s land live in McPatrickhope) Gorrenberry. Park south of the Hermitage Castle, and Gorrenberry, west of the Hermitage Castle. A poem about John Ellot of the Park. Scottish Poetry Selection – Wha Daur Meddle Wi’ Me? http://www.rampantscotland.com/poetry/blpoems_daur.htm Don’t think granddad Clementis Hobs was not much better; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Clemementis-Hob-hand.jpg One does not get to choose their ancestors, though with ancestors like mine it may give reason to.
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3421150?dpr=2&fit=max&h=225&w=590 Do you think people are trying to tell Roberta Estes something. When information is provided by FTDNA, and FTDNA does not follow through on it, what does that say about the quality of information provided? https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Gresham-Grisham-Grissom-12-marker-matches-MSE-1024×678.jpg What does that say about the quality of information Roberta Estes of FTDNA is providing? https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3402301?dpr=2&fit=max&h=621&w=590 FTDNA 101829, and purchased at cost, so the data is mine to apply for my family which I as an Elliott carry the Y-DNA. Note; Graduate mining engineer, UofU 1979, retired instructor, of chemistry and physics, ESL indorsed, Window Rock High School, Ft. Defience, AZ, UNM-Gallup, FORTRAN77, 3rd generation (correction, could not forget grandma Ilah Spencer Elliott), genealogist, after dad his mom, Loren Spencer Elliott and Ilah Spencer. ‘Family Knows Best’. Been kicked off of the Border Reiver FTDNA blog, for doing my family’s history. https://elwald.com/brigham-genealogical-surname-migration-uk-intro/ Roberta Estes, Though a Japanese American, is my hometown’s hero https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-japanese-american-hero-hiroshi-20170703-htmlstory.html , Rootstech is in the third Salt Palace. Three arenas have been built on the site. The second Salt Palace, the first Salt Palace Arena, the Delta Center, and now again another Salt Palace Arena. It should be noted when they built the first Salt Palace area for an ABA team, which was not transferable to the NBA, so they purchased a team from New Orleans called The Jazz. When the first Salt Palace Arena was built a Japanese American community was relocated.
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3419273?dpr=2&fit=max&h=380&w=590 https://books.google.com/books?id=DZhYAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA166&dq=Hermitage+Riddall&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj3vZrO3ObmAhUECs0KHZ65Ct0Q6AEwAHoECAAQAg#v=onepage&q=Hermitage%20Riddall&f=false https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hermitage+Castle/@55.2560367,-2.7954197,17z/ http://relativelyscottish.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/1590map.jpg https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Riddle?iframe=ycolorized https://dsl.ac.uk/entry/dost/riddill_n_1
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https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:John,1890:Jon,1890:Jonson,1890:Jonsson,1890:Jonsdotter,1890:Johnson Adding ‘Johns’, and taking out ‘John’; https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Jonson,1890:Jon,1890:Jonsson,1890:Jonsdotter,1890:Johnson,1890:Johns https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3416982?dpr=2&fit=max&h=435&w=590 https://named.publicprofiler.org/ https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Finn,1890:Fink,1890:Finck A little bird can get a lot done. People of the British Isles PoBI https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3419772?dpr=2&fit=max&h=307&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/armstrong-fairbairn-elliot-y-dna-link/ https://gorrenberry.com/rich-rucker-clan-armstrong-dna-question/ Rich Rucker has a question! https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/armstrong/about “I thought that Y-DNA was supposed to be so clear, and direct. My surname is Rucker, as was my father’s, his father’s and his father’s. My Y-DNA results, the few hundred I have now after doing the Y-67 test last year, have zero Ruckers and 90+% Armstrongs. I get it that this-isn’t an exact science, but I am getting no where. How does one make progress when there is an undocumented paternity? Folkk must think I am looking for child support of something, but we are talking about an event back in 1830. Advice would be welcomed. Thanks.” https://gorrenberry.com/rich-rucker-clan-armstrong-dna-question/ Rich Rucker and I were kicked off of FTDNA Armstrong. Guess who the Armstrong are paying attention to? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Armstrong https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Armstrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Eliott https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Elliot https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Armstrong,1890:Elliott,1996:Armstrong,1996:Elliott Armstrong and Elliott have been migrating to Germany. Unlike the people of the the Union Jack, England and it’s puppet Scotland, in their language of English, it seems like the people of the German language, listen to the Armstrong and Elliott. It can be noted in the difference in translation between the English Clan Eliott, and the German Clan Elliot above. https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/n13 https://books.google.com/books?id=nFr7oQEACAAJ&pg=PR1&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false https://historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ https://elwald.com/schafdieb-aus-dem-norden-englands-die-riding-clans-in-ulster-von-robert-bell/
Armstrong Fairbairn I-M253 Y-DNA – Gorrenberry
FTDNA Irwin Clan Surname – Elwald
Crozier / Crosier
Clan Crozier – Clan Crozier
Clan Crozier (crosier, croser, cros, etc.) is one of the border reiving clans of Scotland, along with the Armstrongs, Elliots, and Nixons. Some sources cite the surname as a sept of the Armstrong clan, but the Scottish Parliament in 1587 identified the Croziers as a middle march clan.
Крозье / Крозье
Clan Crozier – Clan Crozier
Клан Крозье (crosier, croser, cros и т.д.) является одним из пограничных кланов Шотландии, наряду с Армстронгами, Эллиотами и Никсонами. Некоторые источники ссылаются на фамилию как на септ клана Армстронгов, но шотландский парламент в 1587 году определил Крозье как клан среднего марша.
History Ireland
Chronicles of the Armstrongs; : Armstrong, James Lewis : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Maguire Surname Origin, Meaning & Last Name History (forebears.io)
McGuire Surname Origin, Meaning & Last Name History (forebears.io)