FTDNA Glendinning

Thanks Mark According to a clendinnen researcher Theres an Armstong Connection But havent Figured out where with the Clendinnens Possibly co down??

https://forebears.io/surnames/ Clendenin 2014 United States 3,087 United States Virgin Islands 9 Mexico 2 Glendinning 2014 https://www.google.com/maps/place/The+Old+Schoolhouse+-+Glendinning+Farm+Cottages/@55.2530297,-3.1060402,17z England 1,595 Scotland 819 United States 748 Canada 481 Northern Ireland 458 Australia 411 Glendenning 2014 United States 1,724 England 911 Canada 397 Australia 268 Clendennen 2014 United States 473 South Africa 40 England 4 Clendening 2014 United States 1,376 Canada 116 England 15 Clendaniel 2014 United States 786 England 1 Glendening 2014 United States 909 England 40 Italy 15 Clendenan 2014 Canada 72 United States 42 England 1 Clendinning 2014 Australia 133 Northern Ireland 67 United States 62 Canada 53 England 29 Clendinnen 2014 Australia 53 United States 10 England 3 Glendinning 1881 Dumfriesshire 136 Lanarkshire 104 Midlothian 101 Roxburghshire 91 Glendining 1881 Dumfriesshire 32 Berwickshire 10 Roxburghshire 9 Aberdeenshire 4 ‘Glendinning’ is the original place name in Scotland, others surnames are variants, where ‘Glendenning’ the closest to the original place name of ‘Glendinning’.

These past several weeks I’ve been researching Rev. William Glendenning of Raleigh, Wake Co, N.C. He died there in 1816. This is somewhat off topic, but I’m intrigued with him. He was born in 1747, Moffat, Dumfries, Scotland, the son of David Glendinning, Tailor and his wife Christian Martin. I’ve found a few books published about him, am waiting for two I bought on-line, so there will be more clues to work with. He was an early Wesleyan Methodist Circuit Rider in America: Admitted on trial in Brunswick, Virginia in 1775. He was considered eccentric and desisted after preaching for a decade. He had a troubled life and was certified a lunatic in 1811, at which time he was living in Raleigh, a merchant. What I’m looking for is to see who his family was. David and Christian had four children baptized in Moffat: Janet (b.1738) m. Andrew Goldie; Catharine (b. 1741) m. John Findleson; John (b. 1744) & William (b. 1747) m. Salley Lile. William does not appear to have had children, but I’ve some downstream on Janet. I’m most interested to find out what happened to John. They were a Presbyterian family, so John does possibly fit into the picture as a possible father to the Rev. John Clendinnen, b. 1770, Co. Down (a Wesleyan Methodist Minister & my birth father George Clendinnen’s family.) I’ve no clues on John to work with, so its just conjecture at this point that there might be a connection.

Wow Thanks Lee Hopefully u onto Something there Re Rev John Clendinnens Father.

I received the two books this week regarding Rev. William Glendinning. On page two of his “The Life of William Glendinning, Preacher of the Gospel Written by himself, in Two parts” originally published in 1795, He states “I was born in Moffatt, in Scotland, about the last of October, in the year 1747. My parents had only three children, that lived to the age of maturity; two daughters and myself.” So, my desire to follow through on his brother John is dashed, he died young.

From reading all the different descriptions of DWC’s ancestry, both claimed by him and then by others, several different ancestors are attached to James Clendinning, U.E., which is why I have been spending so many years researching the families in America. I’d like to put it to rest!

I spent way to much time reading this https://archive.org/details/historyofkanawha00atki/page/n7/mode/2up this book was published in 1876 and it says: The name was originally “Charleston” which was changed some years afterwards for reasons not now known. The name was suggested by George Clendennin, in honor of his brother Charles, who came to the Kanawha Valley with his elder brother in 1786, and became of of Charleston’s most exemplary, distinguished and useful citizens.

Like always, so many conflicting reads: https://archive.org/details/historyofgreatka02madi/page/n8/mode/2up History of the great Kanawha Valley, with family history and biographical sketches. A statement of its natural resources, industrial growth and commercial advantages 1891 says: James E. B. Clendenin was born in Mason county, W. Va., September 25, 1825, the son of Charles and Sophia (Neal) Clendenin, The father was a son of William Clendenin, a native of Ireland, who was born in 1753, and who married Margaret Hanly. William Clendenin was in the battle of Pt. Pleasant, being at that time, a resident of Lewisburg. He afterward went to Charleston and took command of a company of men who had assembled there to defend the settlement against the Indians. The marriage of William Clendenin and Margaret Hanly took place about 1783, their children being as follows: Elizabeth, Sophia, Charles, John, Andrew and Annie. Charles Clendenin was born in Greenbrier county, W. Va., and came at an early date to Mason county, with his father, William Clendenin, who built the first cabin in what is now Clendenin district. His brother, George, who lived at Charleston at an early day, has the honor of having the city named by him. This George Clendenin, served with his brother, William, in the famous battle of Pt. Pleasant. Charles Clendenin was married to Sophia Neal about 1806, in Mason county, and their children were as follows: William, who was born October 4, 1808, and lost his life February 25, 1846, by drowning at the mouth of the Kanawha river, while a passenger on a steamboat;

Looks Like I need to find Daniel W. Clendenan’s Synoptical Family History from An American journey : the Youngs (Jungs) of Pennsylvania, Virginia, and West Virginia https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/595874-an-american-journey-the-youngs-jungs-of-pennsylvania-virginia-and-west-virginia?viewer=1&offset=0#page=54&viewer=picture&o=ocr&n=0&q=clendenin page: 49 The significance of a family cannot only be measured by how many of them are present in an area. Such was certainly the case with the Clendenin family. This family was of Scotch-Irish ancestory. John Clendenin immigrated from Ireland to Lancaster Co., Pennsylvania in 1746 with two brothers, Charles and Archibald. Charles, who was the father of George Clendenin of Kanawha County fame, was bom in Dumfries. Scotland in 1714/15. Charles and Archibald Clendenin migrated to Virginia where George was born in Augusta County in 1746. They then moved to Greenbrier County where George married Jemima McNeil on February 2.1779. Charles Clendenin was also father to William, Robert, and Alexander, younger brothers of George (Much ofthe information on this family comes from Daniel W. Clendenan’s Synoptical Family History). In December, 1787,

GTC claims this Charles to be the son of William Clendenin of Quarterland and Roseanne Kirkpatrick, but this is not likely. From what I’ve researched in N.C. records so far, (haven’t gotten to revisit Virginia yet,) There was a Charles Clendenin that received a land grant of 55 acres adjoining the lands of William Clindenin and others in 1782, originally entered in 1779. I’m not sure if he was the brother or son of your William (b. 1726). Charles was living in Hillsborough in 1800 (Census) but he is not named in William’s will of 1790, which might suggest he’s a brother. Also, Charles Clendenin was bondsman to the marriage of William Clendening & Mary Ray in 1791. I’m not sure if I’ve two or one Charles at this point. William’s brother was bapt. 1730, Killyleagh, so too young to be Charles of Virginia. He may have stayed in Ireland. According to the Glendenin Family Bible, William’s son Charles was b. 1759, so might have managed to acquire the land in Hillsborough. This is one of the questions I wanted to ask you Richard, when you have a clearer view of your family, about Charles of N.C. My feeling at this point is that Charles of Virginia is from a different family and there are at least three Y-DNA testers from the Virginia family that are presumed to be descended from Charles, they all belong to the “Ancient Clendenins and allies” Group, so might be related in older generations. It’s confusing, so no clear answer. I’ve not looked closely to compare the Y-DNA of the Virginia and N.C. families.

thank you for the great info, I’m glad there are people looking into this that know more than I do. I’ve heard the stories of Charleston when growing up and it would be interesting to see the comparison of VA and NC families

While I’ve heard the stories of Charleston, if I look at my tree as I have it, I do not have a Charles that fits into this time frame, like you said it could be a brother of William Clendenin but as per my tree, then he would be William Glendenning’s son, but i’ll see if I find anything.

West Virginia historical magazine quarterly (Volume 2) John Miller, third son of Christian and Catharine Miller, was born at Woodstock, May 31. 1781. Being of an adventurous spirit he went “west” to the Great Kanawha Valley in 1795 to make his own fortune. His father gave him forty pounds in money and the advice never to go security for any man, as he- had done to his sorrow, and “always act fairly and squarely in everything.” He stopped for a time at Fort Clendenin., where he met the ‘girl who became his first wife ten years later. Later he settled in Gallipolis, an old French town four miles below the mouth of the Kanawha, where he found but two other per- sons who could speak English— a Colonel Salt’ord and a Mr. Murry— so he had to learn French which made him conversant with three languages, French, German and English. Here he followed the business of a hatter until 1810 when he abandoned it for farming which was more to his taste. January 26. 1S06. he wsm married to Sophia Clendenin, daughter of Maj. William Clendenin, and his wife Margaret Handley. Win, Clendenin, the second son of Charles Clendenin. was born May 23, 1758, and died in 1828. His wife was a daus-hter of John Handley. born May 10. 1762, and died in 1835. William Clendenin was a private in the battle of Point Pleasant in 1774 and later was commissioned Major in the Kanawha militia of which his brother George was Colonel and Daniel Boone Lt. Colonel. He represented Kanawha county in the Virginia Assembly in 1796, 1801, and 1803 ; and was her Collector of Levies in 1792, 1793. and 1794. Was also a Justice of the Peace and member of the first court in the county held at his house in 1789. About 1790 Major Clendenin settled on the Ohio river nearly opposite Gallipolis. In 1804 he carried the petition to the Assembly asking for the organization of Mason county, whose first representative be became in 1805. His daughter Anne, born July 31, 1799, married in 1815 Henry Miller (brother of John), a Corporal in the war of 1812.

Noticing also in Papers There were Clendinnings etc who had Drapery Stores in Ireland Reid and Clendinnen Was also a Store…Interesting..

Just found a Marriage in 1787 in papers in Saunders Newsletter A John Johnson esq of Richhill to a Miss Clindinning of same place

I think you mean marriage was in 1780. Cathy, have you been able to verify what database has the Belfast Newsletter for 1787?

Hi Lee I have Accces to Irish Newspaper Archives Data Base and The Belfast Newsletter on there From Dates 1738 to 1938

I can’t find my file on Thomas, it is somewhere: but this is what I wrote about him in my paper re: James Clendinning, U.E. & his brother John: Thomas CLENDENNING [CLINDINING] of Glasgow, Scotland, late of Baltimore, Maryland, was born prior to 1720. He was a Wigmaker in Glasgow in 1745 when he advertised in the Virginia Gazette that he can offer the best of prices for wigs made in Glasgow and send to Williamsburg, Virginia. He also appears to have had a shop in London, England. Reference to his will indicates it was probated February 5 1762 in Baltimore, Maryland, America. He left his estate to his son John, if living, of Glasgow, Scotland. Otherwise the estate was to be divided between his wife, Margaret CLENDINING, daughter of James Wilson WRITER in Glasgow and his brother John CLENDINING, Wigmaker in Glasgow. A search at Scotlandspeople.gov.uk did not find a marriage reference in the Old Parish Registers for Thomas CLENDINNEN/GLENDINNING and Margaret WRITER, several Thomas and Margaret were found, it is possible Margaret was previously married and anther surname was recorded. Nothing was found for the family with an Ancestry.com search (accessed September 2 2014.)

Cathy, When you post a newspaper item, please cite the name of the paper, the date and page number, unless this already appears on the image. Thanks, Lee

Ok Lee no Probs

25 March 1762 – Annapolis Maryland Gazette – Annapolis, Ma Column 1

John Clendaniel 1879 Is this your lot Shelby?

William was an Apothecary in Wexford and Carlow etc…His Brother John Clendinnen went to NY where he was a Jeweller in Troy NY then went to NZ for awhile, then to Victoria Australia Johns family too were Doctors and Preachers and One of Johns Sons was a Well known radiographer in Victoria

Hi Kamy…Nice pic Checked him on ancestry, he was a rev, so was my ggggrandfather John Clendinnen a Wesleyan minister born circa 1770 in co down…Actually a few of my Clendinnen line in Canada were also ministers

This is interesting also as tracked him back, he goes back to William Glendinning and Rose Ann Kirkpatrick….My line goes back thru William Glendinning and Rose Fisher, tho theres some debate amongst clendinnen researchers re these…Interested in your Dna Results…my number is T212212 My sisters on Gedmatch is M045209 she lives in states, I live in Australia

Hi Cathy! Sorry I have just noticed the notification that you had made a comment on the picture that I posted. I just recently got my kit shipped back so I’m a month or so out on the results I guess. Yes, George Washington Clendenen was a circuit riding Methodist minister. I’m new to the DNA side of things, I’ve got a lot of work to do to understanding all the lingo and what results mean – it’s all Greek to me now but so interesting. We had my husband’s DNA tested first and I decided to have mine done also. Was a little disappointed in that my husband didn’t match any other Gambles that have been tested. Not sure what to expect out of mine!! I’m currently in the process of rebuilding my Family Tree Maker files – I had a computer crash and that is when I found out that the FTM files were not being backed up to my external hard drive-learned the hard way. I had a backup CD from a few years ago but a lot had been added since that time but at least I had that. Would love to hear more about your family and once my DNA results are back to compare, etc. Thank you for your note!! If you need to contact me directly, my e-mail address is: kamgam@bellsouth.net