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The book of Scots-Irish family names – FamilySearch

The book of Scots-Irish family names. Title Also Known As: Book of Ulster surnames|Ulster surnames|Scots-Irish family names. Statement of Responsibility: Robert Bell. Authors: Bell, Robert, 1953- (Main Author) Format: Books/Monographs.

Daniel Elliot (1637–1704) FamilySearch

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Discover life events, stories and photos about Daniel Elliot (1637–1704) of Tullykelter, County Fermanagh, Ireland … English and Scottish: variant of Elliott .

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Chronicles of the Armstrongs Ed By James L. Armstrong M.D. 1902 p.77 Elwald

Sketch of Dand Ellot of Scotland to Daniel Elliot of Ulster (Dand to Daniel – elwald.com) PDF MSE 10/25/2010

10/25/2010 Bob’s last birthday did not make it to Christmas.

Robert Elliott Obituary, Urbandale, IA :: Iles Funeral Homes

When a surname changes over the centures how should it be recorded? – WikiTree G2G Feb 15, 2018 by anonymous

Bec; An early resident of Bec was Alanus Elfwold (1248).[5] Humanistiska vetenskaps-samfundet; Lund, Louise Vinge C.W.K. Gleerup. vol. 72-74 p. 22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_Hall

Rimington, History
The village was listed in the Domesday Book as “Renistone”. The name Boulton (Bolton) is listed in land deeds of 1302,[3] and Robert Elwald son of Alan listed 1304.[4] Calendar of Close Rolls, Vol 1302-7 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimington

Kirtland, OH Daniel-David NY line;

EDF, I know you do not need a land’s person a Scottish Ministry Report will do, because the English Wind Farm Industry the Scottish Ministry has already bought them off so when it goes into result like the Windy Edge Wind Farm which Teviot Wind Farm is a part of, the paid off repealed decision will go to the English which purchase the electricity of the Scottish grid. The Cromwellian Parliamentary Tory government is from an Irish genocidal government anyway, and can not expect any better form such government but to dictate Scottish Wind Farm policy because England want energy without having wind farms themselves.

Between Dod Hill, and Hermitage Castle is Brailee Burn.

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People of the British Isles’ project and Viking settlement in …

The People of the British Isles Project and
Viking settlement in England
Jane Kershaw (j.kershaw@ucl.ac.uk) and Ellen C. Røyrvik
(e.royrvik@warwick.ac.uk)

Россия — это большая территория, на которой проживает множество людей разных культур. Люди мигрировали. Переселились не те, которые воюют, а те, которые переселились в поисках лучших условий. Ветвление идет из Африки на Ближний Восток.

Арабский и иврит идут слева направо, поэтому они разветвлены и, вероятно, религиозно разветвлены.
Русский идет справа налево, а все языки, мигрирующие на запад из России, идут слева направо. Математика арабов более универсальна как язык.

Люди, медведи, волки и лоси встречаются в Азии и Америке, а имена используются в Азии и Америке для мигрирующих людей.

Англо-саксы мигрировали, что не значит, что они были завоевателями. Моя семья была шотландским военнопленным во время Кромвельской гражданской войны, продана в качестве залога кромвельским пуританам, и все же мы те, кто в Америке и Австралии, где сейчас находится FTDNA.

Кузены, вступившие в смешанные браки с ирландцем, Ко Фермана, переехали в Западную Германию во время Смуты, конфликтов между пресвитерианами и католиками, из городов далеко на севере Ирландии, чтобы превратить наши земли в поле битвы, поэтому мы переехали в Германию. Если на этой границе снова возникнет насилие, ожидайте, что Армстронг и Эллиот снова мигрируют в Германию с обеих сторон ирландской границы между ЕС и Брекситом.

ДНК путешествует вместе с языком. Если бы Рим завоевал этот язык, то Англия говорила бы на латыни. Если бы норманны завоевали этот язык, в Англии говорили бы по-французски. Победители демонизируют историю проигравших, чей язык и ДНК унаследованы.

Моя семья англо-саксонская русская, из Украины, откуда родом ваша семья. Сначала язык был бесписьменным, но фонетически нас называли лосями. Когда к фонетике были добавлены иероглифы, для лося появились разные варианты написания, хотя на диалекте они произносились в основном одинаково. Это было в районе обитания лосей в Евро-Азии.

Как только лоси вышли за пределы своей среды обитания, как это часто бывает при переходе в район Берлина из Польши, название изменилось на лось (elk), которое также используется в Англии.
Англо-европейцы мигрировали из западной Англии-Европы, где лоси не жили, поэтому они переняли американское слово, обозначающее лося (moose)…
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Distribution of monuments of Late Bronze Age cultures on the territory of the southwestern zone of forests and forest-steppe of the Russian Plain and the Carpathians
Распространение памятников культур поздней бронзы на территории юго-западной полосы лесов и лесосте¬пи Русской равнины и Карпат

PoBI Viking settlement in England by Jane Kershaw & Ellen C. Royrvik

LivingDNA 45% on Viking measurement. Mark Stephen Elliott, New Mexico, USA.

Brigham ‘This is the Place’ genealogy with DNA applied

DNA是用于寻找家庭成员的众多工具之一。

ДНК — один из многих инструментов, используемых для поиска членов семьи.

DNA is one of many tools used to find family members.

生活在来自亚洲的人们中间，似乎将沙皇和海啸中的“ts”声音带到了美国。这是第二波。第一波是祖尼，还有东边的人，根据我的DNA，他们真的欢迎我的家人。祖尼人跳科曼奇舞，这表明DNA在他们的语言基础中。美国驼鹿一词来自该语言。

Elliot Chief receives a tribute to her grandmothers at Greenville, SC

Forty-eight Elliot Clan Society members participated in the Chief ís Dinner on Saturday evening during the Greenville Games.

During dinner, Elliot Clan Society member and South Carolina re-enactor, William Grissop, of Travelers Rest, South Carolina delivered a moving tribute to the Chief – honoring her Scottish Border and Southern Grandmothers. The Elliot Chief descends from a line of hereditary Chiefs back to the time of Robert the Bruce in the 1300s in Scotland. Through her Atlanta-born paternal grandmother, she also descends from many early South Carolina families who settled in that state before the American Revolutionary War. Here are the words Mr. Grissop shared with Margaret Elliott of Redheugh: Margaret Eliott is a daughter of the Scottish Borders, that fabled land that produced the men known as the Border Reivers or the Steel Bonnets. They were indeed men of steel. It need not be doubted that these men of steel sprang from, married and fathered women of steel. To even read casually of the Border history would make one wonder what sort of women were these who mothered, married and supported these men, the Steel Bonnets. These were strong women, resilient women, loving women. Were it not so, we of the Elliot Clan would not be here today. Our Chief, Margaret Elliott, is blood and sinew of these people. She is also blood and sinew of another proud line of strong women. Chief Margaret is also a Southern Girl! Her paternal grandmother was bornin Georgia and other grandmothers were born in South Carolina and Tennessee. (Being a native South Carolinian with much Georgia blood flow ing through my veins, I can readily state that this is about as much glory as one person can stand!) These women of the South have proven their glorious worth over the years.

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Use to using a different format, but the above is and example of lands, including an insert-map showing Braidlee, from Anglo-Saxon Broadlee, meaning a valley broad on the leeward side. Wolflee also Anglo-Saxon, meaning the valley of the wolf. Yes, there were wolfs in the region. They introduced them around here and the Navajo grandmas shoot them for going after their sheep. Put chief Margaret Eliott raised in Stobs, but of Redheugh, in the same category if Scotland decides to reintroduce wolfs. Her husband seems to have a Polish wolfish type surname.

Though I may observe him, do not want to make any distinctive moves. Past British Army MI6 you know, but on the same family side.

May have bumped elbows on an Armstrong in the Aberdeenshire region. Finding that Eliott-Elliot may have land connection with Douglas-In-graham in region. Those Graham they are English an seem to not want to claim Armstrong-Elliot as family. Maybe the Nixon and Crozier seem to have English connections they find more acceptable.

Kind of like staying in the Forest with the Fosters, they are English and seem to be not offended to be related to Armstrong and Elliot, from the English side like those Grahams. It is the Hunter and wolf, for they are predators of the elk-moose, I must watch out for.

The Crozier seem to be Saxon along with the Thorleehope (valley of Thor, god of lightning Thunder Valley). A couple of Crozier seem to match their Y-DNA and are not R-L193. It seem like if you are not R-L192 and are R-U106, Anglo-Saxon they like to silence and exterminate you. Mark Stephen Elliott

Daniel as a forename is not popular in Scotland. Many great in accordance with Douglas Scott of BC, Canada, Dand Ellot was banished from both Kingdoms in 1607, then shows up as Daniel Elliott, in Tullykelter, Co. Fermanagh, Ireland, as part of the Somerville Estate in-law to the Monea Hamilton. Names Somerville, and Ellott show up in 1610 Tyrone Muster, and a generation later in the Co. Fermanagh, Muster. James Somerville shows up in bother musters. 1610 James Somerville had son 1630 Somerville. Scots alias nickname for Andrew is Dand, Irish English it becomes Daniel from surname of Daniel-M’Daniel it may be obtained. Ellot family of Tullykelter were Anglican but nomally Catholic, from forenames show this, even the name in 1610 Ulster Muster of Co. Fermanagh, Marke Ellot shows this. Before 1650 the Scots used Ellot not Elliot with the Norman ‘i’. Daniel Elliott name in 1692 Salem Trials was spelled Elot, the ‘i’ was added likely because of a John Eliot (Eliot Hall Harvard) which came over on the Mayflower. Had a relative to a George Soul who’s ancestor those Armstrong may have melted in lead at Ninestanerig, 9 stone ridge. Did not seem to care much for this Soulis either. The Douglas and Armstrong seem to like, and this Douglas Scott who is from BC, Canada is active with the Hoik-Hawick Archaeological Society, and has this younger brother who is active also, and sings Scottish Ballads with this group called Scocha (Scott-Chapman), do not know being an elk-moose if I care for his middle name of Hunter, though I think he also is weary of the hunter.

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Brigham ‘This is the Place’ genealogy with DNA applied

In the Russian-speaking environment, there is a version that the battle “Tollense valley battlefield” is supposedly a conflict over the genetic border between distant genetic relatives R1b and R1a. In the battle, the earliest Europeans from genetic genus I (i) were used as allies and support for the R1b cavalry. Allegedly, in the Bronze Age, there was a prototype of the Warsaw Pact, which protected Eastern Europe R1a from other different religions, ideologies, and new synthetic languages … in the future, divided R1a into small pygmy states, under external control. Therefore, it is very interesting to find the primary source for genetic haplogroups determined from the bones of ancient warriors who made history, which is unknown to us, since, for example, in Russia (even in tsarist Russia, perhaps due to the fact that the last Romanovs were R1b from the family Holstein-Gottorp). All historical events before the adoption of Christianity were destroyed or hidden from the public eye and education.

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Mikhail Ravinski

August 23 @ 4:19pm

From a genetic point of view, it is very difficult to find out who the Russian Tsars and Princes really were, since even in the official data it is clear that the tsars were replaced in childhood. And a very vivid example is the Russian Tsar Peter 1, either he was replaced by the “Germans” in Moscow at the time of his birth, then he is actually the son of a Georgian prince, then he was changed for the third time during a trip to Western Europe. And I don’t really know who they were by genetics Holstein-Gottorp. Since everything connected with the power in Russia is covered with several layers of rewritten history. Even now, they say that Putin is not real and that there are doubles acting instead of him, or in general all the presidents of Europe, the United States and Russia were infected with leprosy by the President of Ukraine Yushchenko. And because of this insidious disease, Putin’s face has changed, and in fact it is not a double, but simply a consequence of the leprosy that Yushchenko infected with during kissing and hugging all the presidents.

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Mikhail Ravinski

August 23 @ 4:30pm

Bashkir cartoon based on myths that the Giants used to live together with people and why distant relatives of R1a and R1b constantly waged wars among themselves. R1a and R1b are the main haplogroups of the Bashkirs. But that’s not the point. This cartoon by Artyom Lukichev is about the epic Ural. According to this epic, the Bashkirs descend from two brothers – Shulgan and the Urals. So one of the sons of Shulgan – Hakmar – the Bashkir Burzyans descend from him, they are R1b, and the three sons of the Urals – Idel, Nugush and Yaik – from them the Bashkir tabyns, Yurmats and Kypsaks come from, they are R1a. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMBuo7JHesg

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Far, Loren Spencer Elliott, ville sige, at en ingeniør bygger en bro, som andre kan krydse. Family Tree DNA konstruerede en bro fra den tysk-danske grænse til East Anglia, hvor Lorens søn, Mark Stephen Elliott, kan krydse.

Лорен Спенсер Эллиотт, мой отец сказал бы, что инженер строит мост, по которому могут перейти другие. Генеалогическое древо ДНК построило мост от немецко-датской границы до Восточной Англии, который может пересечь сын Лорен, Марк Стивен Эллиотт.

Лорен Спенсер Елліотт, мій батько сказав би, що інженер будує міст, через який можуть перейти інші. Генеалогічне дерево ДНК побудувало міст від німецько-датського кордону до Східної Англії, який може перетнути син Лорен, Марк Стівен Елліотт.

Loren Spencer Elliott, mój ojciec powiedziałby, że inżynier buduje most, przez który inni mogą przejść. Drzewo genealogiczne DNA zbudowało most od granicy niemiecko-duńskiej do Wschodniej Anglii, który może przekroczyć syn Lorena, Mark Stephen Elliott.

Loren Spencer Elliott Môj otec by povedal, že inžinier stavia most, cez ktorý môžu ostatní prejsť. DNA rodokmeňa postavila most z nemecko-dánskych hraníc do východného Anglicka, cez ktorý môže prejsť Lorenov syn Mark Stephen Elliott.

Loren Spencer Elliott Apám azt mondaná, hogy egy mérnök hidat épít, amelyen mások átkelhetnek. A DNS családfa hidat épített a német-dán határtól Kelet-Angliáig, hogy átkelhessen Loren fia, Mark Stephen Elliott.

Loren Spencer Elliott Mein Vater würde sagen, dass ein Ingenieur eine Brücke baut, die andere überqueren können. DNA Family Tree hat für Lorens Sohn Mark Stephen Elliott eine Brücke von der deutsch-dänischen Grenze nach East Anglia gebaut.

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The reason I present the screen is that different people get different screens. In genealogy on needs to research in the language of their ancestors or find someone who can. They are looking for new information which ties into their family lines. To teach technique though I try to use other families, on techniques of family. One is for the best research biased towards their own family.

Причина, по которой я представляю экран, заключается в том, что разные люди получают разные экраны. В генеалогии нужно исследовать язык своих предков или найти кого-то, кто может. Они ищут новую информацию, которая связана с их семейными линиями. Обучать технике хотя я стараюсь использовать другие семьи, на техники семьи. Одним из них является лучшее исследование, предвзятое к своей собственной семье.

Who is going believe that a person born in the forties, of Border Reiving descent owns and operates a dot com? My actions as one time a behavioral scientist was meant to do that. Was able to sort out the admins. THE FAMILY KNOWS BEST, is how genealogy is done. The first person to put their foot on the moon, was and Armstrong an engineer, then towards the end of the American moon landings, a geologist of Harvard from New Mexico, with a middle name the same as my mothers-in-law’s maiden name core drilled the moon.

With the challenger a social studies teacher was sent into space, with an engineer saying the O-rings were bad.

If an FTDNA admin has kicked someone off their blog then I am saying having worked as a second generation engineer ‘Your O-rings are bad’.

Changed the model. Own and operate three dot coms. Utilize behavioral separation. The scientists-mathematicians-geneticists-genealogists, by their behavior of being seekers and searchers, the top ones have already done so, will go to Microsoft Bing, (that young man Bill Gates started Microsoft in New Mexico, can’t understand why he moved to Seattle). Knew silences do not check what is a necessary for proper science and genealogy, that is documentation.

That is the worst situation a engineer can be in, especially having a standard of studies in ‘strenghs and materials’.

Since people without base principals like sig figs, are trying to superimpose their concepts on people as the judges of the Salem Witch Trials, and Senator McCarthy in ‘blacklisting’ Jewish authors as being ‘communists’, feel these immigrants which came to American after the Apache and Navajo, and my relative on the Mayflower, for us it is standard. Freedom of speech and religion.

The best way for a deception is to be as accurate as an engineer, and have people think you are a liar.

Sincerely,

Mark Stephen Elliott

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https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/yorkshire/activity-feed https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Kilian,1890:Killian https://forebears.io/surnames/killian Steven Bailey, “The main place that you will see matches with many different surnames is the Y-DNA12 Marker Matches section. The time to a common ancestor for these matches may extend beyond genealogical records and the adoption of surnames.” https://learn.familytreedna.com/user-guide/y-dna-myftdna/y-matches-page/ https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/population-genetics Genetic Ancestry and the People of the British Isles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8k9LMaFeRM Apr 27, 2018 Early Yorkshire Charters: Being a Collection of Documents …books.google.com › books William Farrer – 1915 FOUND INSIDE – PAGE XXIII The same confirms to Crispin de Branham certain land . 1175 – 90 . . . . . . . . . . 1026 . Nigel Fossard to Peter the clerkland in Bramham . 1175 – 90 346 1027 . Peter the clerk to William de Langewait — his lay fee in Bramham . 1175 – 95 . https://www.google.com/maps/search/Branham,+Yorkshire,+UK/@53.8566443,-1.4870262,10.83z?hl=en&authuser=0

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July 23 @ 9:08pm

“A previous posting said, “The closest DNA matches to date are at genetic distance 3, so fairly removed. ” In how many markers, 12, 25, or 37 ? If it is 37 markers it is significant, and would like to know the surname match. Do you have any exact matches at 25, or multiple matches with the same surname including variants at 12?” I ask of what significance are the lower level matches? In my case I have a lot of Ross and Masseys at 12 and Hilton and Helton at 67. My Father-in-Law, a Bramham from Bradford, has numerous Killian, Killion and Kilians at the 12 level which is suggesting to me Palatine ancestry. Any thoughts? ” In specific accordance to FTDNA, at 29 years, and it is my understanding that that FTDNA uses a measurement of 30 years/generation. Without specifying the the units number being significant, this in accordance to proper standard math practices, makes it 30±5 years. When they get an outcome from TIP calculation from entering a measurement of one significant digit and output four significant digits this shows the level mathematical knowledge which is utilized by FTDNA. This is information I am passing from them so take it or leave it. “The main place that you will see matches with many different surnames is the Y-DNA12 Marker Matches section. The time to a common ancestor for these matches may extend beyond genealogical records and the adoption of surnames.” https://learn.familytreedna.com/user-guide/y-dna-myftdna/y-matches-page/ https://www.familytreedna.com/faq-markers.aspx So at about the time of surname adoption in accordance to FTDNA, which in this region would be close to 29 generations, the exact matches for 12, 25, and 37 rank the same. The surname Bramham, and Branford are of place names since in Yorkshire the ending “-ford” refers to a shadow river crossing, and the ending “-ham”, refers to as home. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bradford,+UK/@53.7442723,-2.0864386,8.15z/ https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bramham,+Wetherby,+UK/@53.2545967,-2.7113086,7.62z/ As one can seen Bradford and Bramham of Yorkshire are not far from each other. As you state Kilian, and Killian are of Germany; https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Killian,1890:Kilian But it is also Irish, and the Irish have been known to Anglicized their names from the Gaelic. Have you compared your DNA with https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/killian-killion/dna-results to determine whether it is German or Irish?

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Hi, Thanks. I joined the Killian group. A number of the matches are from the Carolinas and of German descent. As for Ireland, yes there was a Saint Killian but also there were also a number of Poor Palatines who were located there. And some were accepted in Yorkshire. Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Palatines. So, of what value are numerous zero distance surname 12 level matches? What does it mean?

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click right to enlarge in new tab Armstrong, Elliot, Nixon, and Crozier of the Scottish Middle March, were exiled by protestant James VI of Scotland, who was taken from his Catholic mom, Marie Stuart, Queen of Scots. Who the protestant cousin the first Queen Elizabeth had beheaded, and when she died James VI of Scotland became James I of England also. So it was move and be exiled to basically County Fermanagh, or be exterminated. This happened by king James of now Scotland and England after Elizabeth died in 1603, by the army of the English. The Mechanics are basically the same, but to be family history the results for each family is different, that is what makes family history fun when doing ones own family is finding out about your particular family, and therefore getting to know ones self better. Elliott (personal prejudice) then Armstrong, with the Middle March families Scottish side, of Nixon and Crozier included; The process of finding family, is like having a black colt, and a corral full of horses, and looking for the colt’s mother. So in the corral you first clear out all those horses which Y-DNA, the stallions. The the old mares, because they are to old to have a young colt. Then the mares which are not black. The colt is a Shetland. So you clear out all those which are not Shetland, and then the ones which are not black, and left with two young black Shetland mares, but can not tell which one it the colt’s mother. Then you put family into the coral. Release the colt, and then the colt finds it’s mother. In genealogy, genetics can divide out family. My mother does not carry Y-DNA, blue eyed, and dad also, so I am likely blue eyed. With Y-DNA line Anglo-European, likely to share same surname. Brought up a Methodist, by a mother raised Catholic. The Methodist are on my Y-DNA side, so if Jews became Christians, the Christian Catholics, became Anglican then Episcopalian, then Methodist, overseas what would my family’s likely faith be. Likely be in a region of Methodist-Episcopalians-Anglicans, and may be normally Catholic. https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ Family is living with Armstrong where they were exiled to Ireland, and the EU/Brexit border raps around us. But since I am born into as a Y-DNA male, blond haired blue eyed like chief Margaret, but hair a little darker, been our tribal Elliot 29th chief for over thirty years, and was doing genealogy when her father Sir Arthur was the 28th chief and of Redheugh, a fortress outpost the Ellot (Scot’s spelling without the French ‘i’). To not be ‘prejudice’, must be anti-WASP. Can’t help whether I was born that way. Armstrong, which guarded the border lands, and the Elliot which soldiered the Hermitage castle to kept the kingdoms of England and Scotland separate, the army of Scotland. Today’s Scottish Ministry have in their plans to build a Windy Edge Wind farm next to the Hermitage Castle the castle north of Redheugh which my ancestors soldiered over five hundred years ago. If Natives of American complain about a pipeline going through their land in American, Anglo Europeans are the first to indicate they are not prejudice. If I mention there is plans for a Windy Edge wind farm being built next to The Hermitage Castle which my Elliott Clan and 29th chief Margaret of Redheugh, https://elwald.com/clan-elliot-29th-chief-margaret-eliott-of-redhuegh-stobs/ (sure she thinks of me as some sort of wild west US ‘vagabond’) one is not prejudice if they do not defend my family’s indigenous lands, when defending indigenous lands of people of America. Race in genetics is not black or white. A black man can carry similar Y-DNA as myself. Racism is when you defend indigenous lands, of Native Americans, then genocide indigenous lands of my race, of people which lived between the kingdoms, and made for America a self governing nation of free speech and religious freedoms, not one which I am being silenced by admins, and a non US company FTDNA which allows that, because the constitution of my nation’s state no matter what color of skin you have, though you may have the basically the same gene, and a black-white marriage is not genetically an inter-racial marriage. Even if you are born white and your indigenous lands are overseas, one has the right to defend them as their ancestors did over five hundred years ago, even though they may have and can not help it being born a WASP male. – Wha Daur Meddle Wi’ Me? http://www.rampantscotland.com/poetry/blpoems_daur.htm The Middle March Clan of the Scottish side of the border, the Armstrong, Elliot, Nixon and Crozier we stick together, do not care much what the others may say, we just pitch-in and feel the best will come of it. Over a half century ago, we were talking about peace on earth, and it was an Armstrong not on earth but on the moon which was talking to a Nixon on earth. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/President-Nixon-speaking-with-astronauts-Armstrong-and-Aldrin-on-the-Moon.mp4 The Elwald to become Ellot, acquired the lands of Redheugh and Larriston, in the fifteenth century; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sasine_deed_1484_for_Robert_Elwald_%28Elliot%29,_Redheugh,_Larriston,_Hartsgarth.jpg Heart of ‘Angus’ which passed the lands to Robert Elwald X, is on the right of Sir James Douglas carred but died in process the heart of Robert the Bruce; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Heart-of-Douglas.jpg Like

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Lee Bennett

41 minutes ago

Mark, As stated in my opening post on June 2, “I would ask that all posts be relevant to the interests of the group as a whole, and tie in to DNA and/or family genealogy of those with Yorkshire roots.” The above posting is both inappropriate and unrelated to our purpose. Please remove your most recent posting. We reserve the right to delete inappropriate material, without notice. Thanks for your cooperation.

Mark Elliott

25 minutes ago

Scarborough, and N&S Cave place names which my first twelve markers match are of East Riding Yorkshire. A Cromwellian War tax was charge to William Elwald of Cottingham, East Riding, Yorkshire, may family was transported as Royalist ‘slaves’, as today’s UK Parliament states after being banish from both kingdoms. My Y-DNA is of the Elwald of Yorkshire. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SELLING-SCOTS-AS-SLAVES-IS-FUNNY-TO-THE-TORIES-2.mp4 Can silence people like Harvard did for witches, or adjust the family history to match the DNA science. The Elwald of Cottingham, tided into the Cave-Wake of the area have the same Anglican Royalist value set as my forefather, and that is why we were silenced by and now laugh at by the government of genocide with united and exiled and exterminated border Armstrong and Elliott, which fought for Charles II, and were as today’s UK’s Tories which my patriotic ancestors strung up. Transported or Cromwellian Taxed with estates usurped from them in Yorkshire. Charles II did become king and the Duke of Buccleuch, and Prince Williams are his descendants. The UK and FTDNA may not have freedom of speech, but I descended from ancestor which separate from UK, and nation was built of those premises. Choice is it the science of Hitler’s Superior Race, witch hanging Harvard grads insuring that they are believed to be at the top of the ‘status quo’, of the science of sharing as with all science, genetics and genealogy. The above most definitely applies to Yorkshire, scientific DNA, genetics, and shared genealogy. It does not apply to them when free speech is excluded, only witch hanging conformed ‘status quo’, Harvard style of silencing for science which produces a not a society of equality and correcting the information silenced, but insuring it’s silence by making sure it is not be incorporated. This silencing will be a demonstration that FTDNA is truly not a US firm. Yes the above definitely deals with my DNA, family history, and the science of distribution and numerical modeling. If exclude FTDNA does not support these values.

Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara has a question!

July 11 @ 7:03pm

“Are there any clues as to surnames or DNA prevalence in various parts of Yorkshire? For instance, my recent Yorkshire ancestors lived in Hull, but prior to the 19th century I have ancestors in a number of small towns and villages further inland. My other question is about the the Photo section of the group. What sort of photographs can be uploaded? I would love to see old pictures of members’ ancestral homes or the parts of Yorkshire from which their family originated. ”

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Lee Bennett

July 11 @ 9:59pm

For surnames prevalent in Yorkshire at the time of the 1881 Census, see https://britishsurnames.co.uk/1881census/wiltshire. All photos, in good taste, related to Yorkshire places, families and individuals would be welcome. You can upload a photo, then post descriptive text to go with it.

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Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara

July 12 @ 10:56am

That a great site for surnames! Thank you, Lee.

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Mark Elliott

July 6 @ 9:07pm

For some surnames County Mapper, as census based UK program may come in useful. Surname limited, doesn’t cover them all. http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/countyMapper.html https://named.publicprofiler.org/

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Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara

July 11 @ 7:06pm

Since the Atkinson surname is found most frequently in Yorkshire, I was wondering if most could be descended from the same distant ancestor, or is it more likely that there were several unrelated lines of the Atkinson surname in Yorkshire?

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Lee Bennett

July 11 @ 9:56pm

Aside from DNA, it would make sense that where groups of the same surname were clustered in a particular area, that they would likely be related. But, that is not something that can automatically be assumed. Perhaps someone can answer to the actual facts, in Yorkshire.

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Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara

July 5 @ 8:53pm

Hello All! My name is Liti and I have Yorkshire roots from my maternal grandmother’s side going back as far as I can through mt-DNA. Both of her parents were from Hull, but it is only through the female line that my Yorkshire ancestors go back at least to the mid-17th century, possibly further. (Her father didn’t settle in Yorkshire until the 19th century.) I live in the United States and find it very difficult to learn much about the history of Yorkshire. My interest is mostly in the history of the lives, customs, various town & villages, surname history etc., especially in a way that ties into genealogy and cant paint a picture of who my ancestors were and what their lives were like. I get most of my information from parish registers available on Find My Past, and have become fairly proficient at reading the handwriting in the earliest records, but I have so much more to learn. I look forward to getting to know other members!

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Mark Elliott

July 5 @ 11:38pm

Your name seems to be East India – Thailand. It is customary that Yorkshire surnames travel the Y-DNA line. Would you know the surname of the father?

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Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara

July 6 @ 12:06pm

You are right, Mark, my surname is Thai. I was born in the USA to a Thai father and a mother of British and German descent. My Yorkshire roots are through my mother and not through Thailand. My mother’s mother was born in Hull, where she lived until her mother’s death and her father’s remarriage. Her surname was Bridgeman and mother’s maiden name was Dearing and that is the mitochondrial line I am researching. Before Dearing the mothers’ surnames are Longhorn, Flint, Peach, Atkinson, Tune, Copley and I think Hewson, Up until the Atkinson line I believe my research is accurate, but the earlier one gets the more difficult it is to trace the female line, especially as quite a few of my male ancestors were married more than once. There are other long time Yorkshire ancestors that are direct ancestors, through the Epworth surname, the maiden name of my 2nd great-grandfather who married a Bridgeman. My Bridgeman ancestor came from Norfolk and settled in Hull in the 19th century.

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Lee Bennett

July 6 @ 2:18pm

Welcome to our group, Liti! I hope you find the Yorkshire connections you seek.

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Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara

July 6 @ 4:33pm

Thank you Lee! I will probably never get to visit Yorkshire, but I look forward to learning more.

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Mark Elliott

July 6 @ 2:35pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3422008?dpr=2&fit=max&h=266&w=590 Y-DNA seems to be crossing paths with the Atkinson [son of Atkin(s)], showing base name distribution of ‘hotspots’ using; https://named.publicprofiler.org/ In Rimington; History The village was listed in the Domesday Book as “Renistone”. The name Boulton (Bolton) is listed in land deeds of 1302,[3] and Robert Elwald son of Alan listed 1304.[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimington Have Y-DNA matches with ‘de Cave’, of North and South Cave of East Riding, Yorkshire. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3600586?dpr=2&fit=max&h=351&w=590

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Mark Elliott

July 6 @ 1:21pm

Javalit (liti) Kitiyakara, “My Bridgeman ancestor came from Norfolk and settled in Hull in the 19th century.” note; “Canon Bridgeman” Autosomal; https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/population-genetics Garrett Hellenthal – The Genetic History of the United Kingdom: the POBI project on Youtube. Most my county McKinley, New Mexico, USA, is of the Navajo people, which clan-ship travel mtDNA. When Anglo-European surnames travel Y-DNA. Have been pre-DNA travel the mother’s mother’s line which mtDNA follows with help from dad from Cork to Dublin region into County Lancashire, England; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/H27a-mtDNA-FTDNA-101829.jpg Likely from East Anglia to Germany/Denmark, North Poland then Finland being mtDNA, H27a. https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/23andME-Geni-FTDNA-mtDNA-H27a-Ryan-Murph-Smith-Croak..jpg Am myself Y-DNA related to the Atkinson, which likely migrated from Yorkshire, to the Borders, into the Ulster Plantation of North Ireland; https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3422008?dpr=2&fit=max&h=266&w=590

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Bruce Lambert

June 24 @ 1:18am

A big hello to all members of the Yorkshire project. I am not sure I am posting in the correct forum but I am seeking any information I can for my father, whose DNA kit I manage. My father (Bruce Lambert) has worked over 40 years to put together his family history; most of it pre-internet. He has traced his earliest known relatives to Yorkshire where the family had resided for quite a few generations. His earliest traceable relative was a William Lambert b. 1685. William married a Hannah Matthews and/or later, an Anne Mathers on Dec 28th, 1710 in Bradford Cathedral. He had the following children-Sarah Lambert abt. 1710, Thomas Lambert 1720 (Idle, Bradford, Yorkshire), Mary Lambert ?, and Hannah Lambert? We have also joined the Lambert Project but with the level of testing done, we have no matches with the name Lambert. It seems that perhaps somewhere along the line his surname may have been different. We are hoping to connect with any family members from the Bradford area. The closest DNA matches to date are at genetic distance 3, so fairly removed. Would love to hear from anyone in the project with ideas for us to go on with in order to find closer relatives initially and perhaps links to William Lambert’s father? -James b. abt 1600

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Mark Elliott

June 26 @ 8:55am

“The closest DNA matches to date are at genetic distance 3, so fairly removed. ” In how many markers, 12, 25, or 37 ? If it is 37 markers it is significant, and would like to know the surname match. Do you have any exact matches at 25, or multiple matches with the same surname including variants at 12?

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Lee Bennett

June 26 @ 12:58pm

Welcome, Bruce Lambert! Did you know you can use Advanced Matches on your Home page to see if you have any matches who are also members within any group? I looked, on your behalf, but found no matches in this group, yet. However, while you wait for new Y-DNA matches, I suggest you broaden your scope a bit by ordering a FamilyFinder (autosomal DNA) test. That test might locate matches (cousins) from Yorkshire, or offer more clues to your family origins, beyond your surname line.

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Lee Bennett

June 28 @ 2:17pm

Bruce Lambert, I discovered my own Lambert ancestor, and Yorkshire connection, via Francis Lambert, born 1587 in Staffordshire. He married Jane Barker (b 1600), in Birstall, Yorkshire. They immigrated to Rowley, Massachusetts in 1640. They are my 10th great grandparents. They had a daughter, Ann Lambert, born 1636, in W. Yorkshire. Ann married Thomas Nelson, born 1636, in Cottingham, Yorkshire. They also migrated to Rowley, MA with their 7 children.

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Mark Elliott

June 26 @ 9:42am

https://forebears.io/surnames/lambert https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Bruce Lambert, Your Lambert? Misspelled on map, but Caltonhall of the Lambert link; http://www.kirkbymalham.info/KMI/calton/caltonhall.html “de Lambert” means of Lambert, has been for some names coming out of France been indicative of being from a French Locality of an individual now in what is now referred to as England. The ‘de’ (of) is dropped then the locality name becomes the surname. Map search Lambert, France, and it will show that Lambert is used many times as a place name in France. In France and Belgium the name is common. “Fitz’ above means ‘son of’, and sometimes incorporated into surnames like Fitzpatrick, and Fitzgerald. When I see something like ‘Hugo Fitz Radulph de Lambert’, I go somewhat crazy with the name with something like ‘Hugh the son of Ralph from Lambert’. If the guy is from Norway, may sub ‘Rudolf’ for ‘Ralph’.

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Mark Elliott

June 27 @ 6:19am

Note; Eliot (Breton, French) + Ellot (Angus, Scot) = Elliot. Though the name ‘Lambert’ seems to be of Flanders-Breton, France the name in England, I feel was adopted closer to Bedford, England, from someone of the region which was of ‘de Lambert’ a Lambert of Belgium-France. Check your Y-DNA matches for seeing where your Y-DNA line may be from. The FTDNA Y-DNA ‘matches map’ is a good tool for this. ‘William de Conquer’ story seems to work for name origins. https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/De-of-Aliot-in-southern-France-name-in-Aliot-in-north-became-Eliot.jpg, but not necessarily for the Y-DNA the English ‘Lambert’ are carrying. There are ‘Aliot’ in southern France, more north in Breton ‘Eliot’, 29th chiefs Margaret Eliott of Redheugh, Scotland of lands acquired in the 15th century Sir Arthur her father had this to say; https://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/dtog/elliot65.jpg Was doing genealogy when Margaret’s father was chief, his daughter has been an excellent one maintaining the history of the Redheugh family past down to her through the generations. She has been chief for more than three decades. This is the sasine-deed information to the land obtain. (many great William Elwald of Gorrenberry); https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sasine_deed_1484_for_Robert_Elwald_%28Elliot%29,_Redheugh,_Larriston,_Hartsgarth.jpg Lands of Larriston are included as in poem; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Elliot140-1.jpg The Redhuegh Elwald/Ellot which own the lands of Redheugh and Larriston; Robert as with all the previous chiefs moved to Larriston as map shows; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/1590-Liddesdale-March-map.png The 1704 pedigree-tree shows that these Ellot now called feuded with the Armstrong. In the song; Gorrenberry is next to Mangerton. Thomas Armstrong brother to Johnie Armstrong in which a gallant company of ‘Eliot (Ellot), and Armstrang’ rode together, and were hung by James V, ca1530, own land on the west side of Gorrenberry referred to as ‘Billhope’, as shown in names for assertion; https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Elwald_people_of_the_forested_groves_ca_1540.jpg ‘Assedantur Thome Armistrang de Meriantoun’, Thomas Army-strong of Mangerton, which is Johnie’s Armstrong’s brother.

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Mark Elliott

June 14 @ 12:00pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3613170?dpr=2&fit=max&h=397&w=590 Enlargement of above which can also be accomplished by right clicking on image and opening in new tab. The ‘-would’ in ‘Elwould’, likely traveled from Yorkshire. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/blaeu-1650-Yorkes-Would.jpg 1650 Blaeu map with ‘Yorkes Would’ (York Wolds [woods]) on it. 1579 Saxton map of region where places are listed in The Border Papers by James V. Elliott. Older background map upper right on above image. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Saxton-1579.jpg The Border Papers: 1560-1594.- Vol. 2. 1595-1603 Great Britain. Public Record Office H.M. General Register House, 1894 – Great Britain https://books.google.com/books?id=tNINAQAAMAAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&dq=Calendar+of+Border+Papers&source=gbs_navlinks_s https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Elliott and Border Reiver site by James V. Elliott https://sites.rootsweb.com/~gallgaedhil/

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Lee Bennett

June 15 @ 1:01am

Mark, When posting to our Yorkshire Group, please give a description of any links you offer. We want to be sure all links are appropriate, relevant and safe for our members.

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Mark Elliott

May 27 @ 10:05am

https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Peter,1890:Petersen https://forebears.io/surnames/petersen

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Mark Elliott

June 2 @ 10:18am

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/peterson?iframe=ycolorized good proportion of I-M253.

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Mark Elliott

June 1 @ 10:58pm

https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/31/mode/2up Little (Liddel), Glendenning (of Scotland), and Elwald/Ellot/Elliot of R-L193 Elwald/Ellot/Elliot Fairbairn (Fairy Bear) I-M253 https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Fairbairn-I-M253-Elliott-Viking-add-mix-James-Irvine-Irwin-FTDNA.png https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Surnames Gresham-Grisham-Grissom, Cave, Scarborough, and Elwald added surnames to relation carrying the same 12 given markers, likely from across the North Sea. Gresham (Castle), Norfolk, North and South Cave of East Riding Yorkshire, and Scarborough (Castle), North Yorkshire, giving location place surnames of Gresham-Grisham-Grissom, Cave, and Scarborough. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3600586?dpr=2&fit=max&h=351&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3516762?dpr=2&fit=max&h=445&w=590 An early resident of Bec was Alanus Elfwold (1248). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_Hall

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Mark Elliott

June 1 @ 1:54pm

If I could have chosen, my ancestors I’ve sure would have picked better than someone likely in on the slaughter of a ‘Hugh Douglas’, and another known to be about the biggest thief in Liddesdale. At least being those individuals, they left a paper trail to follow. Pretty good for a ‘Cowie’, which is intended to leave no trail at all.

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https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Blankenfeld,1890:Gr%C3%BCnfeld,1890:Braunsfeld

Mark Elliott

5 hours ago

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3515028?dpr=2&fit=max&h=339&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3209854?dpr=2&fit=max&h=607&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3422016?dpr=2&fit=max&h=266&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Edward-McDonald-helped-Johnston.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Gresham-Grisham-Grissom-12-marker-matches-MSE.jpg https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3421015?dpr=2&fit=max&h=448&w=590 https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:John,1890:Jon,1890:Jonson,1890:Jonsson,1890:Jonsdotter,1890:Johnson https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/FTDNA-Johnson-but-not-Johnston-or-Johnstone.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Clan-Johnston.mp4

Mark Elliott

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Mark Elliott

Yesterday at 10:25am

How family members are being successful at family history; 1. The family knows best. Those which do not realize ‘The Family Knows Best’, and circumvent the family, makes a huge amount of difficulties by causing the true genealogists to correct the information back to what the family first said. 2. Listen to others, especially of the opposite sex, to make family. Though you may not think that which is coming from the opposite sex correct, the answers to what you said is reflective one and can with little skill decipher from the language, needed family information. 3. Do not in a family search, get rid of the in-laws, though you may want to. FTDNA is not a genealogical site because they are allowing administrators to kick out the in-laws. 4. Families fight, and likely not just one answer is correct, in the history. Families in their research seem to aim their research into specific region of research, giving to each other in the same family answers seemly conflicting, but so close they both come out as being correct. 5. If the family’s history is done properly one does not get to pick their ancestors. Self explanatory.

Mark Elliott

March 8 @ 6:35pm

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Mark Elliott

March 6 @ 9:52am

Harvard style of history is symbolized by their Puritanical style of witch hangings, of people speaking out accurately like my many great reporting an accuser saying ‘they did it for sport’. Though the witch gets hung acknowledging and correcting is not a part of Harvard style of history, a method which scientists use. In order to be a genetic scientist searching for errors and making corrections in genes is needed. To be a genetic genealogists searching for errors in family history, and genetics is needed. Harvard style of history has a tendency to hang without correction genetic genealogists which are practicing their profession with proper accuracy.

Mark Elliott

March 6 @ 8:23am

https://gorrenberry.com/barbados-pow-scots/ https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SELLING-SCOTS-AS-SLAVES-IS-FUNNY-TO-THE-TORIES-2.mp4?_=1 http://clancrozier.com/

Mark Elliott

March 4 @ 9:38pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3508333?dpr=2&fit=max&h=186&w=590

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Mark Elliott

March 4 @ 6:17pm

https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Ewald%20,1890:Schinkel https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/people-of-the-british-isles-project-and-viking-settlement-in-england/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63

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Mark Elliott

March 4 @ 10:49am

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3507749?dpr=2&fit=max&h=284&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/M269-to-U106-migration-Michael-Hammer.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/robert-elwald-clan-elliot-chief-1/ https://named.publicprofiler.org/ https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/31/mode/2up Elwald Elliot of Croyland/Crowland https://www.google.com/maps/place/Crowland,+Peterborough,+UK/@52.6735453,-0.1751426,15z/ https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Gresham-Grisham-Grissom-12-marker-matches-MSE.jpg https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/people-of-the-british-isles-project-and-viking-settlement-in-england/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63

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Mark Elliott

March 4 @ 8:21am

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3507459?dpr=2&fit=max&h=650&w=590 Let’s see how this goes Michael Hammer PhD Geneticist. At least they put that border between New Mexico and Arizona. Know how good the math of Arizona can be; Google ‘AZ photo radar’. Dad, Loren Spencer Elliott at 90, looks pretty good on the Mighty Mo. Note; Star Valley, AZ no longer has photo radar. ‘Hammer’, was one of the names a relative of mine was offered on his birth certificate but he discarded it. The math which FTDNA utilizes in TIP calculation, starts with input of a single significant digit of 30 yrs/gen then get an answer to the nearest hundredth of a percent. Does FTDNA really know their math? Like Hitler would put young men in charge, to determine lives, Harvard put judges in charged to determine witches, and hung them by silencing. Of course my Y-DNA at a proven branch point of two sons. Harvard history is a genetic superior race analogy, which does not confirm proper use of math, and science, but only Nazi type of uniformity on ‘status quo’ history. It is people which are spending a lot of money on not needed Big-Y so Harvard witch hanging types can turn them into lab rats, and have admins on site if they do not like what they are saying hang them as witches in the same manner young boys of Hitler’s squad could sent Jews to the gas chambers. Doing my family history, and putting through my Y-DNA, though my genocide of matches during Border Pacification is being filtered, this time these above words in pieces have already been spoken with the accuracy of Daniel Elliot refugee of Harvard Puritans of the Salem Witch Trials. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Armstrong-Border-Pacification-Genocide-BBC.mp4 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Scottish-Clans-12-18-Clan-ArmstrongConverted-split-002731-002800-201704011351196358.mp4 https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/3465588-1024×933.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Border-genocide-filtered-out-of-the-FTDNA-Y-DNA-12-marker-match-map..jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Armstrong-Elliott-Johnston-Fermanagh-surname-distribution-map-.png https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ Documentation for the Johnston of Ulster. Been kicked out of FTDNA Johnson blog. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/FTDNA-Johnson-but-not-Johnston-or-Johnstone.jpg https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3405404?dpr=2&fit=max&h=481&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Reiver-marrying-native-Irish-of-County-Fermanagh-Ulster-Ireland..jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Anderson-Johnson-Polish-Germany-to-Ulster-Johnstone-Scotland-Johnston-Ulster.jpg https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3431267?dpr=2&fit=max&h=467&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Edward-McDonald-helped-Johnston.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Clan-Johnston.mp4

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March 2 @ 10:21am

Douglas Young Yesterday at 1:07am “Hello. I am Douglas Young the Clan Young Society historian. I am an I-M223 and it is the 3rd largest haplogroup of our clan members. My ancestors are from the Stonehaven area of Scotland and I have them back to David Young of the farm Montgoldrum. I have a copy of his will from 1636 and we estimate he was born about 1585.” https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Armstrong-Border-Pacification-Genocide-BBC.mp4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle Dand (alias Andrew) Ellot exiled to Ulster, Ireland 1607. https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Border-genocide-filtered-out-of-the-FTDNA-Y-DNA-12-marker-match-map..jpg https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3453303?dpr=2&fit=max&h=572&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3453310?dpr=2&fit=max&h=308&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3464411?dpr=2&fit=max&h=258&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Dunbar-Cockburn.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Dunbar-3.jpg Though the answer to the genocide of Armstrong, is to silence an Elliott to censor him out which I expect will be done by what goes entirely against being valid in the genealogical family history, but valid in monarchical James VI-I, and Harvard witch hangings to silence is to kick me off this blog because I speak of history of my family; My family is not today’s United Kingdom, of a monarchical genocide of my true family of Armstrong, Elliott, Nixon, and Crozier, of the Scottish Middle March families, https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Middle-March.png of with one first stood on the moon, and another spoke by phone as president to him. Ancestors of Royalists like the Young of Stonehave, strung up an tarred feathered Tories in 1776; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SELLING-SCOTS-AS-SLAVES-IS-FUNNY-TO-THE-TORIES-2.mp4?_=1 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Scottish-Barbados-Indentures.mp4?_=2 If any hardening on the County Fermanagh, border, those Tories still deserved to be strung up adn tarred an feathered. Young is a border name, and used to denote a Young John in the American Appalachians. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Young-Dand-Elliott.jpg

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February 29 @ 7:25am

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February 24 @ 12:35pm

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February 24 @ 12:22pm

Elizabeth Grissom 5 hours ago I am a Grissom, Gresham, Grisham. Woul love to connect with project. I am an Anderson too https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Localities are Anglo Danish. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3496836?dpr=2&fit=max&h=478&w=590 https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Gresham_Grissom?iframe=yresults Having the surname Grissom you have an over 2 out of 3 likelihood of on the Y-DNA the first twelve markers being; 14 24 14 10 11-14 12 12 11 13 13 29 On the Y-DNA of Grissom-Gresham; Elizabeth Grissom, if the first twelve markers are like mine; 14 24 14 10 11-14 12 12 11 13 13 29 then you have an easily over 95+% likelihood-probability, that surname originated from Gresham, Norfolk, East Anglia, now England, about 1,200 AD. Harvard style of genealogy is their witch hanging style not to agree with the above but to silence the free speech of the above, by kicking me out of other FTDNA blogs. It is like bringing the FTDNA Harvard hammer down on you, when you have the policy of not kicking out the in-laws; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Hammer-McDough-pre-revolution-line-German.jpg https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/people-of-the-british-isles-project-and-viking-settlement-in-england/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63

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February 23 @ 12:24pm

Mark Elliott

February 22 @ 11:14pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3495274?dpr=2&fit=max&h=343&w=590 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Elliot Any quotes by me on Wikipedia, since I have been censored from Wikipedia should be considered extremely invalid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot The whole subject of the Scottish name origin is discussed by Keith Elliot Hunter on the Elliot Clan website[9] where he argues for a Breton origin to the name and the first chief being William d’Alyth. Under that name, the d’Alyths played a key role in the Scottish Wars of Independence[10] However, Mark Elliot presents a well-argued case that there is no connection between the Elliot river and town with the clan and believes the origins are in the first name of Elwald, which appears in Northumberland in the 8th century king, Elwald 1. Do support this Wikipedia link; https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Elliot Which has contained in it; https://gorrenberry.com/proto-germanic-r-u106-haplogroup-dna-elwald-elliot/ And; The double L and single T Descent from Minto and Wolflee, The double T and single L Mark the old race in Stobs that dwell. The single L and single T The Eliots of St Germains be, But double T and double L, Who they are nobody can tell. Robert Bell dichtete in “The Book of Scots-Irish Family Names” hinzu: “For double L and double T, the Scots should look across the sea!” Robert Bell wrote the book of Ulster Surnames and this history; https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ Any Wikipedia site which does not carry the information of the chieftain line of Redheuch is totally invalid; https://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/dtog/elliot65.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Clan-Eliott-stats1.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/German-Elliot-poem-2.jpg These people of Wikipedia, and Wikitree do not have relevancy because if you as an Elliott, talk about your family history you are known to be the greatest liar of them all, and a censored from talking. Though I am descended from a notorious border reiver Clementis Hobs, I am censored from FTDNA border reiver blog. It should be noted what is on the Redheugh shield was placed their previous to border pacification, it is and ‘elwand’, and measuring rod, an Ediburgh standard for length between that of a Imperial yard, and a French metre. The Elwald/Ellot were at one time referred to as measurers, like surveyors which in Angus survey ‘lot’s with the sides in the length of the standard Scottish ‘el’ referred to as ‘el-lot’s. People along the Scottish previous to UK, Ellot river which farmed these ‘ellot’, where called ‘ellot’. They were brought down to Liddesdale to soldier the Hermitage Castle for the Earls of Angus, the Douglas, between the time of the Knight of Liddesdale James Douglas, and Archibald ‘Bell the Cat’ Douglas, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sir_James_Douglas_heart_casket.JPG (also Archibald Douglas which passed lands of Redheugh to the Elliot).which passed the lands of Redheugh and Larriston on toe the chiefs, which our 29th chief is of today, Margaret Eliott of Redheugh. Her father Sir Arthur and his mother put this together, but it seems that English Wikipedia does not want to acknowledge the Elliot; https://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/dtog/elliot65.jpg an do there final act in censorship to genocide of the clan. The reason Germany is getting it correct is because the border clans which had been exiled to Ireland have been moving to Germany; https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Armstrong,1996:Armstrong,1890:Elliott,1996:Elliott Archaeology Notes N064SW 8 60793 40163. https://canmore.org.uk/site/35644/kellie-castle (NO 6078 4016) Kellie Castle (NR) OS 1:10000 map (1975) For Kellie Castle, Dovecot, see NO64SW 67. Kelly (D MacGibbon and T Ross 1889) or Kellie (G M Ramsay, owner) Castle, which was also known as Auchterlony, was the seat of the Elliot family from the 14th to the 17th centuries but the building itself appears to date from the late 15th century at the earliest. After standing in ruins for some time it was restored in the mid-19th century and is still occupied. Considered anything written for English Wikipedia about Clan Elliot are people that are of a puppet state to the English or the English themselves. The true Border Scots exiled to Ireland are now living in Germany, and around the world. The false ones are the ones which do not carry the Elliott DNA, and censor them speaking. This is being done when people speak for indigenous Americans which speak individually for themselves. If it does not contain the ‘Elliott’ name poem then how can the site be a Clan Elliot site? This shows different naming localities, and is accepting of different Y-DNA originating differently. My Y-DNA is only of a special proto-Germanic R-U106 origins it does not mean that I-M253 Elwald-Ellot and Fairbairn did not migrate during the same period of time. As long as I am being censored and can not write on Clan Ellot Wikipedia, considered what is being said on it as a procedure by the UK to complete the genocide of the Clan Elliot not of the UK. Kind of laugh at it; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot No true Elliott is reading it anyway. They know the relevancy of material on Wikipedia because of their censorship and a lot on the FTDNA blogs which censor are mighty low. Examples in images; FTDNA; Elliot https://www.google.com/search?q=FTDNA+Elliot&rlz=1C1AVNA_enUS566US566&sxsrf=ALeKk00hgzloXRxyOo-YpNjCR75f5hQs_g:1582440288236&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjzqoi6iefnAhUPbKwKHb9uBPsQ_AUoAnoECAsQBA&biw=1280&bih=612 Johnson https://www.google.com/search?q=FTDNA+Johnson&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiSjcW7iefnAhUxA50JHXBkA1IQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=FTDNA+Johnson&gs_l=img.3..35i39.50018.51917..52387…0.0..0.126.653.5j2……0….1..gws-wiz-img…….0i24.2ilwiiXrFd8&ei=Yx9SXtLPE7GG9PwP8MiNkAU&bih=612&biw=1280&rlz=1C1AVNA_enUS566US566 Border Reivers https://www.google.com/search?q=FTDNA+Border+Reivers&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwi34ZvViefnAhXSPM0KHVydA5cQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=FTDNA+Border+Reivers&gs_l=img.3..35i39.54212.54212..55798…0.0..0.94.94.1……0….1..gws-wiz-img.4LptQE4_7lQ&ei=mR9SXvewCtL5tAbcuo64CQ&bih=612&biw=1280&rlz=1C1AVNA_enUS566US566 elwand Elwald Ellot links; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/DSL-elwand.png https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Elwand-Elwald.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Horsleyhill1.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/elwand-elnwand-mesuris-weightis-elvand.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Gavinis-Hob-Elwald-Elwand-2.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Gavinis-Hob-Elwald-Elwand-2.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/elwandis-elvandis.jpg https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/elwand.jpg They may have their language, but I as an ‘elwand’ Ellot, hold the measuring elwand.

Mark Elliott

February 22 @ 8:58pm

https://forebears.io/surnames/Barna https://forebears.io/surnames/Mraz https://forebears.io/surnames/Kromka https://forebears.io/surnames/Stephen Because ‘Stephen’, the forename is rare in the region of Slovakia, it most likely was a surname of a related family. For instance give surname localities it could easily be related to the family of Timnea Stephen from the region. Timnea is a surname found in Romania. If one matches a number of surnames like I do; Mainly Gresham, and Cave, but also; Scarborough, Dennis, Nelson, exactly for the first twelve markers, it is likely if you can find the place name localities, and the surname distribution localities, it is likely these surnames were all adopted from a nearby region group of Y-DNA, and likely one can find the region of surname origins. With migration by a group, in my case Anglo-Danish Norfolk-Lincolnshire-East Riding, one can kind of figure the people the surname was adopted out of. R-U106 with I-M253 gives a Danish-Viking add mix, for about 1100 AD. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/people-of-the-british-isles-project-and-viking-settlement-in-england/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63

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February 22 @ 8:57pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3495098?dpr=2&fit=max&h=292&w=590 First statement Slavokia, does not have anything to do with the surname Irwin. This is a modeling of a method of finding family. Mom’s mom Irish, and dad’s family pre-US American. So mom’s mom Barna of Kesmark https://www.google.com/maps/place/060+01+Ke%C5%BEmarok,+Slovakia/@49.1457193,20.4056624,13z/ Slovakia should show up in autosomal DNA around Slovakia. Barna a surname should show up in concentration in the region also. Barna, Mraz, and Kromka, do show up in the same region. https://forebears.io/surnames/Barna https://forebears.io/surnames/Mraz https://forebears.io/surnames/Kromka Could this be done with any established set of surnames in Europe, to find out where your family is from. Can it be used with autosomal DNA to get and more accurate locality? Can establish names in the UK be used instead of this European example? Does this also apply to Ulster and the Scottish-English Borderlands? Stephen is my middle name which folks agreed upon, and is much more Scottish then Slovakia, but my middle name Stephen is Slovakia, and likely near the original locality the name was formed, given my Proto-Germanic Y-DNA.

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DNA match with Atkinson, of Magheraboy, County Fermanagh, Ulster Plantation, Ireland helps to insure that my family of Daniel Elliot of Tullykelter, is from there; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Martin-Ellot-of-Braidley-Dand-Ellot-of-Braidley-Dand-Ellot-son-to-Clemmentis-Hob.png (Dand Ellot-Scotland, Daniel Elliot-Ulster)

Mark Elliott

Yesterday at 9:31pm

Many great granddad knew John Ellot of the [lived on chief’s Redheugh land across Riddall (Hermitage Flue)],’wee Jock Ellot’, and Clementis Hob; ie Clement Crozier’s sister son Robert Elliott, of the (William Ellot’s land live in McPatrickhope) Gorrenberry. Park south of the Hermitage Castle, and Gorrenberry, west of the Hermitage Castle. A poem about John Ellot of the Park. Scottish Poetry Selection – Wha Daur Meddle Wi’ Me? http://www.rampantscotland.com/poetry/blpoems_daur.htm Don’t think granddad Clementis Hobs was not much better; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Clemementis-Hob-hand.jpg One does not get to choose their ancestors, though with ancestors like mine it may give reason to.

Mark Elliott

Yesterday at 11:05am

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3421150?dpr=2&fit=max&h=225&w=590 Do you think people are trying to tell Roberta Estes something. When information is provided by FTDNA, and FTDNA does not follow through on it, what does that say about the quality of information provided? https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Gresham-Grisham-Grissom-12-marker-matches-MSE-1024×678.jpg What does that say about the quality of information Roberta Estes of FTDNA is providing? https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3402301?dpr=2&fit=max&h=621&w=590 FTDNA 101829, and purchased at cost, so the data is mine to apply for my family which I as an Elliott carry the Y-DNA. Note; Graduate mining engineer, UofU 1979, retired instructor, of chemistry and physics, ESL indorsed, Window Rock High School, Ft. Defience, AZ, UNM-Gallup, FORTRAN77, 3rd generation (correction, could not forget grandma Ilah Spencer Elliott), genealogist, after dad his mom, Loren Spencer Elliott and Ilah Spencer. ‘Family Knows Best’. Been kicked off of the Border Reiver FTDNA blog, for doing my family’s history. https://elwald.com/brigham-genealogical-surname-migration-uk-intro/ Roberta Estes, Though a Japanese American, is my hometown’s hero https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-japanese-american-hero-hiroshi-20170703-htmlstory.html , Rootstech is in the third Salt Palace. Three arenas have been built on the site. The second Salt Palace, the first Salt Palace Arena, the Delta Center, and now again another Salt Palace Arena. It should be noted when they built the first Salt Palace area for an ABA team, which was not transferable to the NBA, so they purchased a team from New Orleans called The Jazz. When the first Salt Palace Arena was built a Japanese American community was relocated.

Mark Elliott

January 2 @ 10:47pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3419273?dpr=2&fit=max&h=380&w=590 https://books.google.com/books?id=DZhYAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA166&dq=Hermitage+Riddall&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj3vZrO3ObmAhUECs0KHZ65Ct0Q6AEwAHoECAAQAg#v=onepage&q=Hermitage%20Riddall&f=false https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hermitage+Castle/@55.2560367,-2.7954197,17z/ http://relativelyscottish.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/1590map.jpg https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Riddle?iframe=ycolorized https://dsl.ac.uk/entry/dost/riddill_n_1

Mark Elliott

Yesterday at 9:59am

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Mark Elliott

Yesterday at 9:14am

https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:John,1890:Jon,1890:Jonson,1890:Jonsson,1890:Jonsdotter,1890:Johnson Adding ‘Johns’, and taking out ‘John’; https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Jonson,1890:Jon,1890:Jonsson,1890:Jonsdotter,1890:Johnson,1890:Johns https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3416982?dpr=2&fit=max&h=435&w=590 https://named.publicprofiler.org/ https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Finn,1890:Fink,1890:Finck A little bird can get a lot done. People of the British Isles PoBI https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/

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January 3 @ 9:05am

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3419737?dpr=2&fit=max&h=258&w=590 Rich Rucker has a question! https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/armstrong/about “I thought that Y-DNA was supposed to be so clear, and direct. My surname is Rucker, as was my father’s, his father’s and his father’s. My Y-DNA results, the few hundred I have now after doing the Y-67 test last year, have zero Ruckers and 90+% Armstrongs. I get it that this-isn’t an exact science, but I am getting no where. How does one make progress when there is an undocumented paternity? Folkk must think I am looking for child support of something, but we are talking about an event back in 1830. Advice would be welcomed. Thanks.” https://gorrenberry.com/rich-rucker-clan-armstrong-dna-question/ Rich Rucker and I were kicked off of FTDNA Armstrong. Guess who the Armstrong are paying attention to? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Armstrong https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Armstrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Eliott https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Elliot https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Armstrong,1890:Elliott,1996:Armstrong,1996:Elliott Armstrong and Elliott have been migrating to Germany. https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/n13 https://books.google.com/books?id=nFr7oQEACAAJ&pg=PR1&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false https://historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ https://elwald.com/schafdieb-aus-dem-norden-englands-die-riding-clans-in-ulster-von-robert-bell/

Mark Elliott

January 3 @ 9:04am

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Mark Elliott

January 2 @ 9:54am

László Varsányi, Lets do this for the old country. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3418191?dpr=2&fit=max&h=222&w=590 https://www.kdejsme.cz/prijmeni/R%C3%BCcker/hustota/ https://www.kdejsme.cz/prijmeni/Barna/hustota/

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January 1 @ 10:07pm

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Crowland,+Peterborough,+UK/@52.6088397,-0.3760866,10.21z/ https://named.publicprofiler.org/ https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/n13 https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/wild-elks-return-to-germany-a-853581.html https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Ewald

Mark Elliott

January 1 @ 9:33pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3417649?dpr=2&fit=max&h=289&w=590 https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Gresham_Grissom?iframe=yresults Norfolk, Gresham, and others 12 marker; (14 24 14 11 11-14 12 12 11 13 13 29) 13th Century surname adoption region. Correlates well with the People of the British Isles PoBI study; https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_Hall

Mark Elliott

January 1 @ 11:23am

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3416901?dpr=2&fit=max&h=413&w=590 https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Gresham_Grissom?iframe=yresults https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Bell,1890:Ewald https://named.publicprofiler.org/

Mark Elliott

December 31 @ 9:10am

https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Wilson,1890:William,1890:Wilkin https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Wilson,1890:William,1890:Wilkin,1890:Will Question; Who has the most correct original pronunciation of the name ‘Will’, the Germans or the English? https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:William,1890:Williamson One-Williamson in Hamburg. This one’s for Kinmont Willie and Willie Nelson. OK, also for John Wilkinson. There are sure a lot of those Willies, just northeast of Saarbrücken, Germany. https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Willi,1890:Willie ‘Willi’, and ‘Willie’ for https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Utilizing international genetic scientists with a collective agreement on proper sampling procedure without use of surnames, a study (PoBI), was done on generations of rural populations throughout the United Kingdom. The autosomal DNA correlates well with individual surname migrations coming out of Germany. It is not the conquer’s DNA which is spread, it is the ones which were conquered. The meek inheriting the earth. People of the British Isles PoBI https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org

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Mark Elliott

December 30 @ 8:14pm

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3414513?dpr=2&fit=max&h=544&w=590 Nelson, from Germany (Poland) to Anglican to York to Borders and onto Ulster. http://www.therjhuntercollection.com/resources/muster-rolls-c-1630/search-muster-rolls/ https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Nelson https://forebears.io/surnames/nelson Nelson and Haggard ‘Poncho and Lefty’ (Poncho, attacked New Mexico, USA) https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Willie-Nelson-Merle-Haggard-Pancho-Lefty.mp4

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Mark Elliott

December 29 @ 11:31am

https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3412401?dpr=2&fit=max&h=419&w=590 https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/sep/06/jocelyn-bell-burnell-british-astrophysicist-overlooked-by-nobels-3m-award-pulsars Jocelyn Bell Burnell, Following up on genealogy, to get it correct for genetic scientists, can become a strain. At least in 1596 there were also Bell along with Ellot in on the rescue from Carlisle Castle Prison of Kinmont Willie Armstrong. At Tullyhogue Fort; http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland/genealogy/muster/tullyhogue1610.html there were Bell and Ellott, near Lurgan, Armagh, Ireland where you are originally from. Did not know being from New Mexico, the state in which the Very Large Array VLA is in, and asking you a question, in Rochester, New York at Friends General Conference in 2000 a couple of decades ago, about ‘Roswell People’, the answer would get me this far with my genealogy. Did see Nixon run for president in 1960, to young to vote, but when I voted, I voted 1972 for McGovern (peace candidate). A half century ago, Nixon talked by phone to an Armstrong on the moon https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/President-Nixon-speaking-with-astronauts-Armstrong-and-Aldrin-on-the-Moon.mp4 , and a century before that Esther Hobart Morris, at one time, Justice of the Peace of Sweatwater County, (a county I once lived in), Wyoming, brought women’s voting into this world. Family is from Tullykelter Castle region Fermanagh; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle, Anglican-Protestant Charles II Royalists, on the side of Catholic relations ‘transported as slaves to the colonies’; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SELLING-SCOTS-AS-SLAVES-IS-FUNNY-TO-THE-TORIES-2.mp4?_=1 Though there is a Robert Bell of Ulster also, which wrote a history on our people; https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ “To give some idea of scale, the Armstrongs, at their height in the sixteenth century, could put 3,000 men in the saddle at forty-eight hours notice, a sizeable force, well versed in guerrilla warfare. And if the Armstongs were to ride out with their confederates, the Elliots, Nixons and Croziers, nothing less than a royal army could send them home again.” http://clancrozier.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Localities-of-Nixon-Crozier-Elliot-and-Elliott.jpg But, no one of England likely wants to read it. Because they have their own numbers, (unlike scientists) to produce their own truths.

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Mark Elliott

December 23 @ 12:55pm

https://named.publicprofiler.org/ In Scotland the surname ‘Anderson’, has a close distribution pattern around Hawick (properly pronounced ‘hoik’, where the name of the town formerly spelled ‘Haik’, and the ‘a’ like in ‘strang’, and ‘auld’, ‘lang’, ‘sang’; ‘old long ago’, is properly taken as an ‘o’). The surname ‘Anderson’ has a close distribution pattern with the Scottish single ‘t’ spelling of the surname ‘Elliott’ which then becomes ‘Elliot’, how Daniel Elliot of the Salem Trials in Massachusetts is spelled as ‘Elliot’, but at first came as the Ulster muster of 1630 ‘Ellot’ now in Ulster spelled ‘Elliott’, and the French/English ‘Eliot’, of Puritan Harvard in Harvard judges would put and Havard ‘i’ into the name and spell it as John Eliot (French-English) would influence it’s spelling ‘Ellot’ became ‘Elliot’, and the Ulster, ‘Johnston’ became ‘Johnson’. JOHNSON not to get mixed up with JOHNSTON (Ulster) from JOHNSTONE (Scotland), place names of; JOHNSTONE Castle, or JOHNSTONE of Parish Church of Scotland. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Johnstone+Castle,+Johnstone+PA5+0SP,+UK/@55.8222722,-4.5193377,15z/ https://www.google.com/maps/place/Johnstone+Parish+Church+and+Churchyard/@55.2007892,-3.4181058,14z/

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Mark Elliott

December 22 @ 10:33pm

When I tried to publish on Wikipedia Clan Elliott it seems like I did well. FTDNA Elliot(t) is being screened, and admin is on many FTDNA sites. Paid good money to be on blogs which pertain to me. Like Border Reivers. Most used browser is Google using Images all except the one of Roberta Estes and Reiver Border map are ones put together by me and uploaded to the web. If there is anyone since I have not been able to get on the Border Reiver site, and feel they can use all the help they can get, can upload the ones that may pertain to them those mentioned FTDNA blog, would be most appreciative.

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Mark Elliott

December 23 @ 12:03pm

If anyone ever needs an image off a FTDNA blog, just click right mouse button, and ‘cut and past’, the link like I have done here with the image above. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3404061?dpr=2&fit=max&h=307&w=590

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Mark Elliott

December 22 @ 10:26pm

Tried to help the Elliott out numbers on stats went up for over a week. Helped the Crozier out on Wikipedia, and got kicked off, so I took the info before being kick off in PDF form and built a domain for them call clancrozier.com, they seem to like it. Appreciate Stephanie Ray keeping me on.

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Mark Elliott

December 21 @ 12:09pm

https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Anderson,1890:Andersen,1890:Ander,1890:Anders https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Johnson,1890:Johnsen,1890:John,1890:Johns https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Johnston,1890:Johnsone,1996:Johnston,1996:Johnstone JOHNSON not to get mixed up with JOHNSTON (Ulster) from JOHNSTONE (Scotland), place names of; JOHNSTONE Castle, or JOHNSTONE of Parish Church of Scotland. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Johnstone+Castle,+Johnstone+PA5+0SP,+UK/@55.8222722,-4.5193377,15z/ https://www.google.com/maps/place/Johnstone+Parish+Church+and+Churchyard/@55.2007892,-3.4181058,14z/ The Irwin, Johnston, and Rutledge, are of Ulster, or from Ulster, in a greater manner than Y-DNA ever can be used to say that. Having Y-DNA plus surname distribution patterns support each other makes the case much strong on who is in the Y-DNA surname line. It is like having relatives sharing and searching in family history supporting each other.

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Mark Elliott

December 18 @ 1:01am

https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Anderson,1890:Andersen,1890:Ander,1890:Anders https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Johnson,1890:Johnsen,1890:John,1890:Johns

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Mark Elliott

December 16 @ 9:49am

https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Andersson,1890:Anderson,1890:Andersen,1890:Anders,1890:Ander

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Mark Elliott

December 15 @ 6:56pm

https://named.publicprofiler.org/

Mark Elliott

December 15 @ 6:46pm

Thanks for; James M. Irvine, Irwin-Fairbairn-Elliott I-M253 link match-up. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/irwin/about/background https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/7 Chronicles of the Armstrongs; 1902 ed by Armstrong, James Lewis MD https://www.familytreedna.com/public/fairbairn?iframe=ycolorized https://www.familytreedna.com/public/elliott?iframe=ycolorized

Mark Elliott

December 13 @ 9:31pm

Mark Elliott

December 13 @ 8:55pm

Note; English ‘finch’, is the German ‘fink’ a species of bird. The names ‘Fink’ and ‘Finck’, migrated to East Anglia, England where the name ‘Finch’ is found. Fink>Finck>Finch. https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Fink,1890:Finck,1890:Finch The Fink and Finck are in the Fens. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/Williamson_p16_3.svg/220px-Williamson_p16_3.svg.png Crowland/Croyland; https://www.google.com/maps/place/Crowland,+Peterborough,+UK/@52.6735453,-0.1751426,15z/ https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/3 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/elg-elk-moose-Kerr1.jpg https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3348780?dpr=2&fit=max&h=214&w=590 https://gorrenberry.com/elk-knows-the-wald-forest/ https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Fink>Finck>Finch. Y-DNA grouping dependent. Those Finck of Finch, traveled with the Ewald of Elwald. https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Ewald,1890:Finck https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Gr%C3%BCnberg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Gr%C3%BCnberg-German-distribution.jpg Carl your first twelve markers match also. Carl your first twelve markers match; https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3256662?dpr=2&fit=max&h=488&w=590 and this; https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3208729?dpr=2&fit=max&h=485&w=590 Carl Finch November 22 @ 7:43am “Mark, I came from Ohio and many there were Methodists. I did find a close match in the name of Conn, distance 1 in 25 markers from county Mayo (Ireland). My father told me that he thought his ancestors were German Hessian soldiers in Revolutionary war, most likely named Fink. That would more likely fit your German heritage.” Carl, think; ‘Fink>Finck>Finch’ fits both our heritages. Did it integrating surname distributions, place name correlation, wildlife names used as surnames, and translations between languages, Y-DNA with matching you Carl at 25 markers exactly. For your info please join; https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/gresham-grissom/about/background https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/cave-family-history-society-dna/about/background https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/scarborough/about/background https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/saxmap.png Lady friend would say, “do not throw out the baby with the bath water”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_Hall Guess what fink from New Mexico, was the first writer on this article. Wonder how that word ‘moated’ was put into the article? The Finch 02 group, most likely follow the same pattern. https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Bose,1890:B%C3%B6se DeBose is an all right name but Böse in German is said to mean ‘evil’, so it like ‘fink’ also may have been changed. For the DeBose in group would consider Colmar, France where the name Böse and Bose, and the Y-DNA is found in 1890. R-U106 shows some strength also in the SW Germany region, on the French border. Carl, yes you are related to those Germans, but you went a back way, through England and Ireland onto America. That Y-DNA goes far back, guess you are another trouble maker like me which went through England to the Borders to Ulster onto America. It is likely Joseph Smith traveled your route, and I the route of Brigham Young, as you know a couple of big trouble makers like ourselves. My mtDNA would have travel likely from Finland to Germany, onto Anglia England to across from Lancashire to Dublin region Ireland, then Co. Cork Ireland onto America. One can see the Finch surname going through Ireland also with you and other an exception travel from the Dublin region to Co. Cork. Will get a lot of disagreement from the supposed ‘highly educated’, Harvard types, but I have a tendency to lean towards the John Steward Bell, Jocelyn Bell Burnell, Alexander Graham Bell, Robert Bell types which were in with the Armstrong, and the Scott in 1596 on the rescue of Kinmont Willie Armstrong from Carlisle jail. The Scrope took him on a Truth Day. Four Bell were in on the rescue also. Though I will get a lot of disagreement, guess who’s DNA I used.

Mark Elliott

December 2 @ 10:31pm

https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1996:Armstrong,1996:Elliott,1996:Nixon,1996:Crozier https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Armstrong https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Elliot https://elwald.com/schafdieb-aus-dem-norden-englands-die-riding-clans-in-ulster-von-robert-bell/ https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Armstrong-Border-Pacification-Genocide-BBC.mp4

Mark Elliott

November 20 @ 1:28pm

208493 Lamb John Lamb d. 1815 Johnston NC -Jacob, James Monroe R-M269 277490 Fisher John Lamb d. 1815 Johnston Co NC – Jacob – John M. R-M269 https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/argyll-colony-north-carolina/activity-feed

Mark Elliott

November 12 @ 12:36pm

Mark Elliott

November 12 @ 11:59am

Loumanes (wolfs). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowland_Abbey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_Hall

Mark Elliott

November 3 @ 11:18am

Mark Elliott One can have the same haplogroup, and the same surname and not match in the Y-DNA matches. For the name Elliott for instance, because it has been shown to be Breton French of ‘Eliot’, Angus Scot of ‘Ellot’, and Anglican of ‘Elwald’ (rare), but the People of the British Isles https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org has shown that Anglican are a broad part of the DNA of the British Isles (in red). R-U106, is known to be Proto-Germanic, of Europe. If the branch takes place way downstream of my R-S16361 SNP in Europe in the R-U106, and the Elliott is of the Norman French Eliot/Elliott, and I being of the Anglo Elwald/Elliott, then when we arrive as Breton-Eliot, and Anglo-Elwald having the same downstream R-U106, with our names merging into the surname Elliott, we would not likely have the same Y-DNA marker matches. It should be noted, that I match R-L21 Gresham of Norfolk, near Bec where my Y-DNA arrived in East Anglia, many exactly for the first 12 markers. The split I feel would be at the R1b-P312 where it splits into R-L21 and R-U106, sharing the same markers at that point, which the ones which became Gresham migrated due northwest to east Anglia, and my DNA migrated northeast to where the moose (elk), are coming in these days from Poland into Germany just east of Berlin, then to the Danish-north German border, then on to East Anglia with my Viking add mix, including I-M253 and I-M223. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/people-of-the-british-isles-project-and-viking-settlement-in-england/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63

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László Varsányi

November 3 @ 12:48pm

Interesting writing, glad to read.

Mark Elliott

November 3 @ 11:52am

www.namenforschung.net/en/dfd/dictionary/list/ Grünberg; grün berg (green mountain) https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grünberg,+09573+Augustusburg,+Germany/@50.8275203,13.1001976,15z/ Also in Germany a Grünwald; grün wald (green forest) There is an Eichwalde, Germany https://www.google.com/maps/place/15732+Eichwalde,+Germany/@52.3147977,13.6059118,10.65z/ in the Berlin region where the elch/elk are coming into Germany from Berlin. Elch wald; elk (moose) forest.

Mark Elliott

November 2 @ 10:27am

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/GOODALL?iframe=yresults https://forebears.io/surnames https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Goodall, is basically an English name where Goodale is found among Americans. It could be a name change from Goodall to Goodale upon migration to America, or a major part of the migration could be among the Goodale of Counties Lincolnshire and Norfolk to America. Seems in England that today’s Goodale live among the Goodall. Because of the Anglo-Danish distribution the name seems of that origin. Do you think the ‘Goodall’ surname came predominately from the region of Yorkshire, and migrated to the US, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, even Scotland, South Africa, with even some moving on to Wales, and Northern Ireland? https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Scottish-research-mapping-to-US-reference-8.jpg There are so few Goodale in England, and many in the United States, maybe the English Goodale came from the United States. It would be a way the Goodall could chase those Goodale out of the family at least. (Please do not take me serious on that one).

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Mark Elliott

November 2 @ 10:18am

Mark Elliott

November 1 @ 1:10pm

At the Battle of Stamford Bridge the Saxons lost. Tracing my name to a Saxon name Elwald which in the UK is said not to exist, and in Germany, had exiled itself in the form of Peter Paul Ewald Ewald of Hitler’s Germany to speak freely by leaving for the UK. In America, my great arrives and speaks freely among the native people found in America. Son of the first Elliot immigrant speaks freely giving testimony to the Salem Trials, but his words are suppressed and nineteen innocent people are hung as witches. Today there are blogs which suppress the basic concept of people presenting the histories of their very own families in a manner of free speech being suppress by a corporation putting profits over families using free speech to find family. The Normans are the winners for their worship of leaders they write the history . When it comes to families they families will insist on writing it, not governments or corporate profit makers.

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Mark Elliott

November 1 @ 1:01pm

https://named.publicprofiler.org/

Mark Elliott

October 28 @ 4:31pm

Mark Elliott

October 26 @ 5:53pm

“With a combination of diligence, intuition, peer guidance, genealogical awareness and luck rather than a sophisticated knowledge of biology or mathematics I show that 37 STR markers are often quite sufficient to identify genetic families/surname branches, and one or two SNP Panel tests can be a very cost-effective follow-up to take many testees to near the forefront of this exciting application of citizen science.” https://ggi2013.blogspot.com/2017/10/james-irvine-speaker-profile.html James M. Irvine, and I would also like to confirm his statement; “37 STR markers are often quite sufficient to identify genetic families/surname branches,”

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Mark Elliott

October 23 @ 2:05pm

https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/n13 https://named.publicprofiler.org/ “DNA Testing, The Armsrongs are not related to the Fairbairns. This is according to Lorna Henderson. Someday we will have our own clan, without being part of the Armstrong clan.” https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/fairbairn/499/ Armystand (1376 army strand on Scottish side of Liddel), Armestrang (Scottish for army strong), then after border pacification Armstrong. Recognized by the Bruce, and Douglas, as being The Strong Army of Scotland. When relatives where on both thrones of both kingdoms, that of England and Scotland, Armstrong genocide began, with a policy of exterminating those with the surname Armstrong, and its ‘army strong’ variants. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Scottish-Clans-Armstrong-BBC-Stewart-kings.mp4 (Anna Groundwater commentary less than a half minute long) The Scottish Middle March, 1573-1625: Power, Kinship, Allegiance https://books.google.com › books Anna Groundwater – 2010 FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 23 “Power, Kinship, Allegiance Anna Groundwater … the Middle March’s geographical location on the frontier between two periodically hostile kingdoms affected its political, administrative, social, … England and Scotland, 1100–1300′,..”

Mark Elliott

October 22 @ 5:12pm

https://www.welt.de/wissenschaft/umwelt/article113485567/Elche-aus-Polen-erobern-deutsches-Terrain-zurueck.html

Mark Elliott

October 20 @ 9:08pm

https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/The-Brexit-deal-explained-Irish-border-issue.mp4?_=1

Mark Elliott

August 17 @ 6:58pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Westmoreland https://named.publicprofiler.org/ by demand

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Mark Elliott

October 19 @ 8:45pm

Lesley Redman, Likely not your line of Spencers, but here’s link; https://elwald.com/james-whitley-spencer-tree-dna/

Mark Elliott

September 3 @ 10:25pm

Stephenie Ray, No wonder the Farrar-Farrow graphic is showing demand on the internet, Brigham Young University is known for their Strickland DNA project. Question these two seem to have a similar marker match, and ending SNP. R1b1a1a2a1a2 (incl DF21) 344993 Bell John Bell 1830-1898, County Monaghan Ireland R-FGC3268 R1b1a2a1a2c R-L21 North Atlantic B1215 Bell Jeremiah Bell c1806-1890, Monaghan, Ireland Ireland R-FGC3268 Are they father and son? Is Jeremiah the father of John Bell?

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Mark Elliott

October 19 @ 8:42pm

When this was posted did not expect popularity. It is felt this is because of the http://www.stricklanddna.org/ Strickland DNA Project Brigham Young University. It surprized me.

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Mark Elliott

October 15 @ 9:37am

Mark Elliott

October 13 @ 8:10pm

https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/ https://named.publicprofiler.org/

Mark Elliott

September 29 @ 10:58pm

https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/ https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Did graphic to show a likely path of Argyllians to the Belfast name establish the name of MacManus (Mac- ‘son of’ -Manus ‘hands’, works with). Also shows Northumbria DNA, on Scottish side of borders and into Co Fermanagh, Ulster Ireland.

John Wilkinson

September 30 @ 3:09pm

Interesting. I know there was a clatch of Wilkinson in Coquetdale in Northumberland at least as of late 1300s (near what is now Rothbury, I believe and not too far from Alnwick and Warkworth). They were English Middle March reivers (or at least some of them were). I’ve never known of any Wilkinsons in Fermanagh, but I’ve also never bothered to look since my line traces to Antrim. But I suppose its possible that transplants to Fermanagh might have in turn migrated to other counties in Ulster?

Mark Elliott

September 30 @ 3:35pm

First Name Surname Barony/Lands Landlord/Estate County John Wilkinson Loughty Sir S. Butler Cavan Robert Wilkinson ONeallan F. Satcheuerall Armagh Nicholas Wilkinson ONeallan F. Satcheuerall Armagh John Wilkinson ONeallan F. Satcheuerall Armagh Henry Wilkinson Armagh Lord Primate of Armagh Armagh Christopher Wilkinson Clankelly C. Waterhouse Fermanagh Abraham Wilkinson Clankelly Mr H. Montgomery’s churchlands Fermanagh William Wilkinson Dungannon Lord Viscount Powerscourt Tyrone Robert Wilkinson Mr Church (Mercers) Londonderry Michaell Wilkinson Town and Liberties Coleraine Londonderry http://www.therjhuntercollection.com/resources/muster-rolls-c-1630/search-muster-rolls/ Likely a yellow instead of an orange circle, on English side of border, moving to Co Armagh, then maybe Fermanagh. From the region of the white triangles, Cumbria. Found a likelihood this happened with the name Ellwood, of Cumbria becoming Elwood of Down near Armagh. https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Atrium seems to pair with Down, for the Presbyterians, and Fermanagh seems to pair with Armagh for the Anglicans (maybe also Tyrone).

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Mark Elliott

September 29 @ 12:37am

It looks like Yorkshire is in demand elsewhere.

Bruce Lambert

September 27 @ 10:10pm

I am writing on behalf of my father whose FamilyTreeDNA account I manage. My father has been working on his family tree for over 40 years now. The earliest relative he has found to date is a James Lambert in Bradford, Yorkshire, around 1660. He had a son William born 1685 who married Hannah Matthews and later, Ann Mathers. Hannah and William had Sarah (born 1710). Ann and William had Thomas (1720), Mary (?) and Hannah (?) Our Lambert family (Isaac Lambert and his wife Rebecca Wilson) left Yorkshire in 1858 for New Zealand and Australia which is where we live. My father’s results proved to be unique within the Lambert project, which is to say that he had no matches with the actual Lambert surname. The Bradford Lambert line appears to have had few male descendants, none of whom have had their DNA analyzed except my father. His Match list contains 13 individuals with 3 or 4 mismatches, that is, with matches at 34/37 and 33/37. They all have different surnames, except two Walkers and two Burtons. Would love to contact anyone who could shed some light on further information relevant to my father. Jane Lambert (on behalf of my father Bruce Reginald Lambert)

Mark Elliott

September 27 @ 11:39pm

Bradford seems to have Lambert, which could test at some future date; https://forebears.io/surnames/lambert

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Bruce Lambert

September 28 @ 12:48am

Thank you Mark for the link.

Mark Elliott

September 18 @ 7:56pm

https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about https://www.danaleeds.com/

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Mark Elliott

September 24 @ 7:57am

Because of my religious beliefs, of being of The Religious Society of Friends a Quaker, and not of the Latter Day Saints, a Mormon; being one who follows leadings, it is with great honor that I am being guided by a well qualified team of family genetic genealogists of which some people call mom. Though my hero was JP in Sweetwater Co, Wyoming which I once lived, and stands in front of the Wyoming statehouse, and inside the US capitol, who brought for the first time with any government the women’s right to vote, name Esther Hobart Morris, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/EstherHobartMorrisCheyenneW.jpg/220px-EstherHobartMorrisCheyenneW.jpg about a half century before the US government did, Brigham Young the hero for Utah proposed that women should vote, but with all his wifes, the US Government did not allow it. First states in US women had the right to vote, Wyoming, Utah, Idaho, and Colorado, all with populations of Latter Day Saints the Mormons. Ladies, Palmyra, is between Rochester, and Seneca Falls, and Susan B. Anthony born a Quaker, Lucretia Mott lived as a Quaker, along with Elizabeth Cady Stanton Unitarian. Note, a Puritan seemed somewhat like a cross between a Unitarian and a Quaker, which Susan B. Anthony would most fit that description. “The monument to suffrage at the U.S. Capitol, called the Portrait Monument, proudly displays the busts of pioneers Lucretia Mott, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony, who launched the women’s movement and first fought for women’s right to vote, which was finally granted 144 years after America declared itself a nation of liberty for all. https://assets.atlasobscura.com/media/W1siZiIsInVwbG9hZHMvcGxhY2VfaW1hZ2VzL2ViZWQ2MWUxZTM3ZGY5MWJiYl9Qb3J0cmFpdE1vbnVtZW50SW1hZ2UwMS5qcGciXSxbInAiLCJ0aHVtYiIsIngzOTA-Il0sWyJwIiwiY29udmVydCIsIi1xdWFsaXR5IDgxIC1hdXRvLW9yaWVudCJdXQ/PortraitMonumentImage01.jpg

Mark Elliott

September 23 @ 9:45pm

Before I was distracted, want to show you I have some mtDNA also.

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Mark Elliott

September 22 @ 8:08pm

https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied/

Mark Elliott

September 21 @ 10:34am

Redheugh and Larriston, are lands given to Robert Elwald 10, by Archibald ‘Bell the Cat’ Douglas 5th Earl of Angus referred to as ‘Angus’, in the later part of the 15th Century. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/43/Sasine_deed_1484_for_Robert_Elwald_%28Elliot%29%2C_Redheugh%2C_Larriston%2C_Hartsgarth.jpg https://dsl.ac.uk/entry/dost/stell_n_1 Transcribed by Teena http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland/genealogy/muster/tullyhogue1610.html Cathy Carley, Having difficulty with the surname mainly spelled “Steele” which varied little over time, putting it with the Saxon name in my line ‘Elwald’, in the Cottingham-York, “ONorthumb. stelle (once, 1099-1128),” East Riding, Yorkshire region. Finding in this group; “Michael STELL, b. 1530, d. 9 Feb 1589 England” where ‘Stell’, is more like the ‘Stelle’, spelling of Germany, though the name ‘Steele’, has similarities to it. On the English side of the Border it seems though the name ‘Steele’ is prevalent that it is spelled also ‘Stell'(correction 9/24/2019 from ‘Steele’ to ‘Stell’). There are a number of Germans carrying the Y-DNA, so it is felt that the word ‘stelle’, which produced the names ‘Steele’, ‘Stell’, ‘Steel’, migrated with the Anglo-Saxons, to Anglia, Yorkshire, the Scottish Borders, onto Ulster then The Colonies with the Border Elwald-Ellott. It is basically felt to mean a place name, meaning a narrowing in a stream or river, where, fish can be trapped.

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September 20 @ 5:54am

Dedication this to and Albert Bird Armstrong, who volunteered his time in dedication of Armstrong, in the upper floors of The Church of Latter Day Saints offices, where the genealogical library was kept. This dedicated to a top genealogists which want to offer their belief to their ancestors, but Albert Bird Armstrong did not bring attention to the Book of Mormon, but to a more important book to me which has my Elwald genealogical line in it; THE CHRONICLES OF THE ARMSTRONG, ed by James Lewis Armstrong MD, and made it available to all Armstrong which wanted a copy. Chronicles of the Armstrongs; by Armstrong, James Lewis 1902 https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/n13 Albert Bird Armstrong, Jr BIRTH 30 May 1900 DEATH 22 Jan 1973 (aged 72) https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/38734448/albert-bird-armstrong BURIAL Redwood Memorial Cemetery West Jordan, Salt Lake County, Utah, USA ARMSTRONG – Funeral services for Albert Bird Armstrong Jr…. In lieu of flowers the family suggests contributions to the Armstrong surname genealogical organization. Funeral directors, Deseret Mortuary.

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September 19 @ 10:55pm

https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied/ It seems like the above link has been kicked out of the Google Browser, so it has come to the top of the Bing Browser. With those Mormons having a Anglo Border Reiver for the second president of the Church of Latter Day Saints, I really wanted to do something for them. Though am a U of Utah grad, hate to say this but that Brigham Young University, certainly has far superior genealogical researchers than the U of Utah, though the best genealogical library is in Salt Lake City, Utah, where the University of Utah is. When attending the U of Utah use to run out to ‘This is the Place Monument’, dedicated to the Pioneers of 1847 coming into the valley of The Great Salt Lake where the Family History Library is located, online at https://www.familysearch.org/ in various languages, and available world wide. Those researchers must really like the above link I created for them, but it looks like again for the Google Browser, the above link does not exist.

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Mark Elliott

September 19 @ 7:10pm

https://www.libraryireland.com/gregg/gregg-volume.pdf https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/ DIAHAN SOUTHARD APRIL 2, 2015 DNA Reveals UK Genetic Roots https://www.yourdnaguide.com/ydgblog/2018/10/19/ancestor-reconstruction A new DNA study details the origins of UK residents of European ancestry. Here’s why this matters to your genetic genealogy (even if that’s not your heritage). Note; The Scottish-English border, cuts across Northumberland families an their Northumberland autosomal DNA in the PoBI People of the British Isles UK rationalized study. Garrett Hellenthal – The Genetic History of the United Kingdom: the POBI project 43:02 https://youtu.be/6ANNHMzmxlI

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September 17 @ 4:42am

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/finch/activity-feed

Mark Elliott

September 13 @ 8:04am

A great statement ‘2 decimal places (e.g. 96.73%) misleading:’ With FTDNA, not making the number of measured years per generation available shows their understanding of mathematics. The above shows that James M. Irvine, has a strong understanding of the mathematics when it is being applied to genealogical research. Numbers am familiar with are 30 and 25 years a generation. At 30±5 and at 25±2½, but will be utilizing a higher more mathematically precise at the units digit e.g. 27±½. For the mathematics to be correct the precision of the answer can not be more than the precision of the input. To get an answer such as 96.73% is mathematically correct, this shows the level of mathematical knowledge which FTDNA is utilizing.

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September 11 @ 9:17am

Ryskamp>Rÿskamp>Rijkamp Henry Ryskamp – Historical records and family trees … https://www.myheritage.com › names › henry_ryskamp Hendrik Rÿskamp 1860 Hendrik Rÿskamp in Ellis Island and Other New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957. Hendrik Rÿskamp was born circa 1860, at birth place. Henry Ryskamp 1860Henry Ryskamp in 1910 United States Federal Census. Catharina Rijkamp (born Dappers) MyHeritage Family Trees Stamboom van Os-van Mosel uitgebreid in van Os Web Site, managed by Anneke van Os Birth: Day Month 1651 – Place

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Mark Elliott

September 9 @ 6:37am

https://forebears.io/surnames/ Technique can be used elsewhere to locate a surname’s place name origin, as in example for the surname Roskamp.

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September 8 @ 11:33pm

https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Whitingham, Bolton, Barton, Preston, -ton (town), -ham (home), place surnames, west Yorkshire-Lancashire. ‘de’/of

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September 8 @ 3:21pm

https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Dana Leeds https://www.danaleeds.com/ https://www.gripitt.org/instructors/ (Genealogical Research Institute of Pittsburgh Providing In-Depth Exploration of Genealogical Topics and Hands-on Learning) “Dana Leeds has been researching for more than twenty years and has a background in education and biology. In 2018 she developed an innovative method for visually sorting DNA matches into groups which became the basis for automated methods such as Genetic Affair’s AutoCluster and DNAGedcom’s Collins’ Leeds Method 3D. This innovation also led to speaking engagements at both i4GG’s International Genetic Genealogy Conference and RootsTech as well as additional opportunities. Dana has attended GRIP four times including last year’s Advanced Genetic Genealogy course. She is thrilled to be a member GRIP’s faculty for the first time this summer.”

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Mark Elliott

September 7 @ 10:11am

https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ballads-of-the-Border-Reivers..mp4 Etched in floor near the name Elliot, in an underpass near Carlisle Castle. List of Border Reiver Surnames A list of Border surnames from both sides of the border include: https://englandsnortheast.co.uk/border-reivers/ Anderson, Armstrong, Beattie, Bell, Blackadder, Bromfield, Burns, Carlisle, Carnaby, Carr, Carruthers, Charlton, Collingwood, Cranston, Craw, Croser, Crozier, Curwen, Dacre, Davison, Dixon, Dodd, Douglas, Dunn, Elliot, Fenwick, Forster, Gilchrist, Glendenning, Graham, Gray, Hall, Harden, Hedley, Henderson, Heron, Hetherington, Hodgson, Hume, Hunter, Irvine, Jamieson, Jardine, Johnstone, Kerr, Laidlaw, Latimer, Little, Lowther, Maxwell, Medford, Middlemass, Milburn, Mitford, Moffat, Musgrave, Nixon, Noble, Ogle, Oliver, Potts, Pringle, Radcliffe, Reed, Ridley, Robson, Routledge, Rowell, Rutherford, Salkeld, Scott, Selby, Shaftoe, Simpson, Stamper, Stapleton, Stokoe, Storey, Tailor, Tait, Thompson, Thomson, Trotter, Turnbull, Turner, Wake, Wilkinson, Wilson, Witherington, Yarrow, Young. Anderson made the top of the list, before Armstrong even. Anderton, Name with ‘ton’, is a place name. Like Johnston(e), a predominately a place name in north of Annan, and just north of Lockerbie, Scotland. The name Anderton, is from just northwest of Bolton, England, Lancashire, was West Riding Yorkshire of Danish Northumbria. ‘-ton’, toun/town, or a farmstead, has a Google Map name in the given locality; https://www.google.com/maps/place/Anderton,+UK/@53.611685,-3.1379588,9z/ It also shows in County Lancashire as ‘de Anderton’, like William de Anderton. William of Anderton, becoming William Anderton. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=%22de+Anderton%22 Surname census concentration of the name is shown in region also, with https://named.publicprofiler.org/ giving a surname ‘hot spot’ at locality.

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Mark Elliott

September 4 @ 6:20pm

This would give reason for the red area being so broad. DNA coming from north Germany-south Denmark, some going to Normandy then north as Normans through the England, then some going to East Anglia going across and meeting the DNA from Normandy then traveling north. The Normandy and East Anglia groups carrying the same DNA since they first originated in north Germany, south Denmark. For my family the Ker ‘elk (moose) of the thickets’ went to Normandy, the Elwald ‘elk (moose) of the woods’ went to East Anglia, meet in West Yorkshire, now Co. Lancashire, of southwest Northumbria region.

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Mark Elliott

September 4 @ 5:50pm

Shows my relation R-U106>…>S16361 of Daniel Group to the Kerr. Put the separation in north Germany, south Denmark as Saxon-Anglos to East Anglia. For Ker to Normandy then northward into England.

Mark Elliott

September 4 @ 5:47pm

Shows Ker(r) relation to the Daniel Elliot of the Salem, MA testimony group.

Mark Elliott

September 2 @ 9:11pm

John Wilkinson, Basic rules I found helpful in family research are; 1. The family knows best. 2. Listen to others, especially of the opposite sex, to make family. 3. Do not in a family search, get rid of the in-laws, though you may want to. 4. Families fight, and likely not just one answer is correct, in the history. 5. If genealogy is done properly one does not get to pick their ancestors. With DNA being introduced it is just a tool. And like The Guide Team says, YOU CAN DO DNA. https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about Both the guide time and I myself have a strong background in science and applying math to DNA. For me since the guide team is made of up genetic genealogist educated at Brigham Young University, they do not carry the Y-DNA. My hero is a person that has a statue, in the US Capitol, and has a statue in front of their respective state capitol. Most women’s rights advocates do not know this individuals name though this person was instrumental in bringing for the first time in the world the women’s right to vote. The name is Esther H. Morris, for the Territory of Wyoming. The next year Utah, wanted to bring women’s suffrage to their government, but the US government felt Utah’s hero Brigham Young had too many wifes. It was the men of Utah which wanted the ladies to vote. Before passage of the Equal Rights Amendment by the US government, women in Wyoming, Utah, Idaho, and Colorado were voting. Previous to the United Kingdom, there were three separate governments; The Kingdom of England, Kingdom of Scotland, and the self governing Borderlands, between the two kingdoms, which did not have like the kingdoms had leaders, they just pitched-in to get things done, their leaders if they had any would have been hung by a kingdom, like Johnnie Armstrong of Gilknockie. Family history is a sharing, and a pitching in among family, and that is why in the graphic above with the Google search “FTDNA Brigham”, it shows a pitching in, because Brigham Young people know that is what you do to find family history. You especially listen to those which do not normally speak out. Like The Guide Team says, YOU CAN DO DNA; it is you which are the authority on your own DNA otherwise genealogy is not being done.

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John Wilkinson

September 4 @ 8:15am

Only Agnes Brown married in Roxburgshire between 1680 and 1730 who did so after 1721: BROWN ,AGNES ANDREW TELFORD/FR1623 (FR1623) 27/11/1724 793/ 60 19 Kelso

John Wilkinson

September 4 @ 8:20am

No Thomas Wilkinsons married in Roxburgshire in same period.

Mark Elliott

September 4 @ 8:37am

https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Kelso-Eckford-Yetholm-.jpg Did you know there is a kirk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Yetholm, they even ride horseback from Kelso to Yetholm and have a song about it. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Gary-Cleghorn-Yetholm-Day-official-video-2010.mp4 The Pringle also had a tower in the region referred to as Smailholm Tower. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00c8gmm Need to include this link because of demand; https://gorrenberry.com/macmanus-mcmanus/ Basically within the Ulster Plantation, the MacManus, once Catholic, migrated from Belfast to Co Fermanagh, and likely then became Anglican, not Presbyterian. Border Reiving families being Nominally Catholic, have this trend to be Anglican, then Episcopalian, then Methodists. They seem to like those Catholics but do not care much for those Presbyterians. From; Bradley Porter June 6, 2017 https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/gibson/activity-feed https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/1801457?dpr=2&fit=max&h=434&w=410 Here’s a map of the UK and Ireland highlighting the frequency of people with the Gibson surname. I found this through Mark Eliot in the Scottish DNA Project. 7 people like thisRamona Bachman Woodrum Rex Gibson Brad Gibson Junior Gibson Roy Gibson They kicked me out of the Scottish FTDNA project, guess I am just a Border Reiver anyway. Even got kicked out of the Border Reiver, and Elliot FTDNA groups. Thomas Telford, a famous Scottish engineer is from the Glendinning region where they are finding R-L193 Glendinning and Elliot Y-DNA from; https://gorrenberry.com/elliot-glendinning-r-l193-sub-l513/ Telford is a border reiver name https://named.publicprofiler.org/ https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Annandale-Eskdale-Thomas-Telford-of-Glendinning.jpg https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Bentpath-Westerkirk-Glendinining-of-Thomas-Telford.jpg https://gilnockietower.co.uk/ This is from the region the Kinmont/Kinmount name is from. A fort of the kin to the Armstrong, mounted in a saddle. When they moved down to the mouth of the Esk on the Liddel, and the Armstrong built a tower, though call ‘Kinmont’ again, because it was on the month of the river, they sometimes called it ‘Kinmouth’, this is where Kinmont Willie Armstrong which Willie O'(Over) Gorrenberry Ell(i)ot helped rescue from Carlisle Castle was first from till he moved his tower to the White River Sark, at Kirk Morton, and now lies buried in Kirk Morton Cemetery on the east side of the River Sark, which his tower was on. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Kinmount-Hoprig-Wind-Farm.jpg Ulster 1630 Muster; First Name Surname Barony/Lands Landlord/Estate County James Brown great Ardes Lord Viscount Clannaboyes Down This region to me is considered the home region of the Ker/Kerr, Carr Time Team – Season 11, Episode 12 – The Lost City Of Roxburgh (Roxburgh, Scottish Borders) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOokEfx1cEY Gives a concept excepting the Duke of Roxburghe, Floors Castle why many Kerr/Ker Carr do not live there. They were there to establish the Elliot chieftain lands of Redheugh and Larriston. Consider them family, from long ago. With linguistic name beginnings of Elwald-Anglo ‘elk (moose) of the woods’, and Ker-Norman elk (moose) of the thickets’. PoBI; People of the British Isles project shows similar DNA for those which fought on both sides of The Battle of Hastings, similar to that of those in both sides of the European Theater in WWII having similar DNA. One of the rules I use in genealogy is that; families fight, and they are both likely to be correct. A way one can tell if they are related.

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Mark Elliott

September 4 @ 4:58pm

Finding that early spelling up to roughly about 1600 is ‘Wilkesone’, then after ‘Wilkisone’. Searching Google Books for the name.

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Mark Elliott

September 4 @ 11:35am

https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ballads-of-the-Border-Reivers..mp4 Pringle etched in floor near the name Elliot, in an underpass near Carlisle Castle.

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September 4 @ 11:26am

https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Name ‘Brown’, likely deals with hair color. The Scots may call someone ‘Red John’, meaning he has red hair. If most hair is ‘fair’ then Red and Brown hair may be unique.

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Mark Elliott

September 3 @ 9:44pm

Wife said, there is a PBS special next week on the Hatfield and McCoy. Wanted to know where they were concentrated in the UK. Guess people think they can keep the peace by wrapping a Brexit/EU border around the McCoy. Know of someone who lived in Armagh and York and do not even want to mention a name.

Mark Elliott

September 2 @ 10:43pm

https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about

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Mark Elliott

September 1 @ 8:33pm

John Wilkinson

September 2 @ 5:51pm

Mark, are you generating all this, or are you gathering it from LDS databases or other resources? It’s all fascinating. If it is something others can access, can you please direct us where/how?

Mark Elliott

September 2 @ 6:17pm

Generated it updating and correcting. Web shows a lot of people are coming to this FTDNA Yorkshire blog to get these graphics. Guess John you are at the front of the line for a lot of them. Just Google Images ‘FTDNA Yorkshire’, or ‘FTDNA Irwin’ and you should pickup on many of them, and where they come from. Use a couple free programs; (screen capture) https://screenhunter-portable.fileplanet.com/download And, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IrfanView found on computers at the Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. Plus a word processor, ‘Open Office’ to put graphics on collectively and screen capture them. Also since there are a lot of research genealogists associated with Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah, USA, Google Image search Brigham “DNA”, and Brigham “FTDNA”, turn up images and links I put online. Going back the generations, I can use all the help I can get, and even need a Guide Team.

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September 1 @ 7:18pm

The Kerr, are related to the Elwald Ellot. Elwald, the ‘elk (moose) of the woods’, are a branch of the Carr-Kerr, the ‘elk (moose) of the thickets’. Note it is by surname designation, as an indigenous might have his language Anglicized to the surname ‘Running Bear’, in which names taken from animals show to be early surnames.

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August 31 @ 9:07pm

https://www.libraryireland.com/gregg/gregg-volume.pdf https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/

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August 30 @ 10:50am

https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about Can not believe this, can anyone believe this, I a have ended up with a ‘guide team’, of genetic genealogists, out of Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah, USA. And, believe me they do their genetic genealogy religiously. Can not seem to get away with anything. They seem to know about this Brigham Young, who’s an Anglo-Border Reiver like myself. Know how these ladies can be because I’m sure our 29th Chief Margaret Eliott of Redheugh wears a steel bonnet and refers to me as some sort of wild ‘vagabond’ from the western USA. https://elwald.com/clan-elliot-29th-chief-margaret-eliott-of-redhuegh-stobs/ Do you know what the DNA Guide Teams saids, “You Can Do DNA”. ‘Brigham’ (bridge home), is a place in England, once Danish, East Yorkshire, of Northumbria, where there is a concentration of people with the surname ‘Brigham’. https://elwald.com/brigham-genealogical-surname-migration-uk-intro/ https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brigham,+Driffield+YO25+8JW,+UK/@53.8164809,-0.4195413,9.4z/ Brigham Young, of his people in 1847, a long trip west pulling carts, found that ‘This is the Place’, the valley of The Great Salt Lake, and for over 30 years it has been the place for the ‘Family History Library’. were the likely the largest data base of world wide genealogical materials previous to the web (now also https://www.familysearch.org/en/), were placed from the upper floors of the Church of Later Day Saint’s office building on the east side of Temple Square to the new Family History Building on the west side of Temple Square in Salt Lake City Utah. Researchers of the library, religious-family-hobbyist-profession and others setting high standards for research in family history. The number one standard in order to even be consider doing family research, is that the FAMILY KNOWS BEST. https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied/ Brigham Young must have known from the early pioneers how to laid things out. The state is surveyed off a point on the southeast corner of Temple Square, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA excepting the region nearest it’s high point of Kings Peak.

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Mark Elliott

August 28 @ 11:13am

Rescue of Kinmont Willie Armstrong from Carlisle Castle 1596. John Wilkinson “I also couldn’t find any references to border reivers being placed in Armagh.” Ulster muster 1630; First Surname Barony Landlord/Estate County William Bell Fewes J. Hammelton Armagh George Bell Fewes J. Hammelton Armagh George Bell Fewes J. Hammelton Armagh Andrew Bell Fewes J. Hammelton Armagh George Bell Fewes J. Hammelton Armagh Robert Ellot Fewes J. Hammelton Armagh John Ellot Fewes J. Hammelton Armagh Archball Young Fewes Sir A. Atchison Armagh Adam Young Fewes Sir A. Atchison Armagh Alexander Scot Fewes Sir A. Atchison Armagh John Scot Fewes Sir A. Atchison Armagh James Scot Fewes Sir A. Atchison Armagh Ralph Scot Fewes Sir A. Atchison Armagh Walter Scot Fewes J. Hammelton Armagh http://www.therjhuntercollection.com/resources/muster-rolls-c-1630/search-muster-rolls/ https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/HISTORY-HUNTERS-Kinmont-Willie-Armstrong.mp4 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ballads-of-the-Border-Reivers..mp4 https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/HISTORY_IRELAND_Winter1994_pgs.25-29.pdf https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Die-Riding-Clans-in-Ulster-von-Robert-Bell.pdf Border Reivers placed in Armagh? Ignore the name ‘Bighames’ above because it is too much like ‘Brigham’.

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John Wilkinson

August 28 @ 2:16pm

Very good, sir!

Mark Elliott

August 29 @ 8:41am

The Fews https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fews (like Co Fermanagh has an EU/Brexit border) “…based on the territory of the O’Neills of the Fews.” “…settled mostly by Scots with names such as McClelland, Sterritt, Morrow, Hamilton and Atkinson during the Plantation of Ulster.”

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Mark Elliott

August 26 @ 6:47pm

https://named.publicprofiler.org/ John Wilkinson, It is felt that given your matches, family did go to Ulster, from the borderlands. Being the line is Methodist, would also consider Co Armagh, besides Co Antrim.

John Wilkinson

August 27 @ 7:19am

Thank you Mark, I will look into the Armagh Wilkinson lines. I have done no digging there since my family genealogy goes dark in Antrim. But perhaps that is just where they sailed out of to America.

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Mark Elliott

August 27 @ 8:24am

Proceedings of the Royal Irish Academy: Archaeology, linguistics and … https://books.google.com › books Royal Irish Academy – 1942 – ‎Snippet view FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 134 The witnesses are John Wilkinson, John Shawe and Robert Conninghame. A deed (No. 26) of the same date,32 makes the transaction a little clearer. It refers to the deed of 13 (rede 14) March 1606 (supra, No. 12), by which Con O’Neale … https://books.google.com/books?id=QNQXAQAAIAAJ&q=inauthor:%22Royal+Irish+Academy%22+John+Wilkinson&dq=inauthor:%22Royal+Irish+Academy%22+John+Wilkinson&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjStr3mn6PkAhVPs54KHQfxC64Q6AEwAHoECAIQAQ Proceedings of the Royal Irish Academy: Archaeology, linguistics and … https://books.google.com › books Royal Irish Academy – 1937 – ‎Snippet view FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 79 Section C. Royal Irish Academy. Tipperary county — sSir Walter Butler, Sir John … Coleraine — Barnabas Bryan, John Wilkinson. Armagh county — Sir Toby Caulfield,** 9Sir John Bourchier.* Armagh — Marcus Usher, Christopher Conway. John Wilkinson By dad Loren S. Elliott; http://www.elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/lse-clan-gen-1992-2.png https://books.google.com/books?id=tW6edf-80pIC&pg=PA496&dq=Gabriel+Coningham+Daniel+Elliott&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi7wODno6PkAhWLpp4KHYAJBX4Q6AEwAHoECAMQAg#v=onepage&q=Gabriel%20Coningham%20Daniel%20Elliott&f=false Note, my Elliot line is Anglican-Royalists, Episcopalian, Methodists. https://books.google.com/books?id=BSsaMrvvhKQC&pg=PA79&dq=%22de+Coningham%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiN9ISIpaPkAhWWvp4KHam3Bs4Q6AEwAHoECAIQAg#v=onepage&q=%22de%20Coningham%22&f=false https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Chasing-my-Y-DNA-part-32.pdf Daniel Elliott of Fermanagh, had an older brother Robert Elliott, Baillie (legal admin) for the Sir John Hamilton estate Co Armagh. Family names on a Hamilton muster in Co Fermanagh. The Hamiltons were Royalists, of Charles II, giving a Royalist town name of Charleston, MA. http://www.therjhuntercollection.com/resources/muster-rolls-c-1630/search-muster-rolls/ FirstName Surname Barony/Lands Landlord/Estate County John Conningham Oneallan Lord Primate of Armagh Armagh Robert Wilkinson ONeallan F. Satcheuerall Armagh NicholasWilkinson ONeallan F. Satcheuerall Armagh John Wilkinson ONeallan F. Satcheuerall Armagh Henry Wilkinson Armagh Lord Primate of Armagh Armagh https://books.google.com/books?id=BSsaMrvvhKQC&pg=PA79&dq=%22de+Coningham%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwifyYyJxKPkAhWTvZ4KHRr1DVMQ6AEwAHoECAIQAg#v=onepage&q=%22de%20Coningham%22&f=false

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László Varsányi

August 27 @ 11:07am

Dear Mr. Mark Elliott! Can you help me? I would like to read it too books under the pasted link because I also care. I managed to download one in Pdf. format. Not the other one. However, this is necessary for my translation into the compiler, because I can’t read it any other way, because of my little English. Do you have “The Conquest of Ireland” in Pdf. format? Best regards, László

John Wilkinson

August 28 @ 10:36am

After doing a little research, I’m not sure the Armagh hypothesis fits. The estates lists were for high end nobles and the Wilkinsons listed would have had to be independently armed to make the roll. To the best of my knowledge, my line was farmers of not much more than subsistence level pedigree. The Francis Sacheverell (misspelled in the muster roll) was a prominent gentleman out of Leicestershire well south of even the English borders. The other estate was for the (C of I) Bishop of Armagh (who was James Ussher at the time). That seems pretty high end for my line. If we had hailed from any of these lines, I think our family history wouldn’t become so obscure once it crosses back to Ireland. I also couldn’t find any references to border reivers being placed in Armagh. The borderer hypothesis is somewhat shaky too since the only Wilkinson borderers I know of were on English side and I don’t think many of them got transplanted (though I could be wrong). Either way, I think perhaps the most probable theory remains a Scottish (likely lowland) settlement in Antrim or Down, possibly as early as the Hamilton-Mongomery settlement in 1606: https://web.archive.org/web/20080516050437/http://www.hamiltonmontgomery1606.com/home.asp

Mark Elliott

August 27 @ 11:51am

https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/BBC-timeline-Oliver-Cromwell.jpg Do you have “The Conquest of Ireland” in Pdf. format? Best regards, László “Royallists regrouped and allied with the revellious Catholics in Ireland. They aimed to invade Britain and overthrow the parliamentary regime.” https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/BBC-timeline-Oliver-Cromwell.jpg https://www.bbc.com/timelines/zttpsbk Look for 1652. “To Scotland’s outrage. Charles I, the son of James VI (which exiled my family to Ulster, and genocide the rest along with the Armstrong). England abolishes the monarchy but Scotland names Charles’s (Charles II) son as king.” https://gorrenberry.com/barbados-pow-scots/ https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SELLING-SCOTS-AS-SLAVES-IS-FUNNY-TO-THE-TORIES-2.mp4?_=1 “Hundreds of Scottish war prisoners were sent to the colonies as slaves by Cromwell” (my family included to Massachusetts). Look for 1652 where it says; “Cromwell invades Scotland in response, inflicting a bloody defeat at Dunbar.” https://gorrenberry.com/dunbar-and-cocklaw/ In 1776 my Elliott ancestors, separated from the United Kingdom, and the patriots strung up those Tories. Peace in Ireland is NO BORDER. The party of violence in the UK is the party which even suggests putting a border in Ireland, the party of peace is the NO BORDER party. Democracy is that which is voted on is accepted. It was “Brexit with a backstop” which received the vote. “Brexit without a backstop”, is Cromwellian Dictatorship, supported by Tories, which want then to live a Cromwellian Dictatorship. After 1776 families’ ancestral lands remained (The Middle Shires – Hermitage Castle), for the genocidal UK to desecrate. “Cromwell invaded Ireland and attacked a heavily fortified stronghold at Drogheda, on Ireland’s east coast. He stormed the city and slaughtered thousands – a bloody act, which he said was retribution for a Catholic massacre of Protestants in 1641. Cromwell returned to England and in 1651 crushed a Scottish invasion led by King Charles I’s son at the Battle of Worcester. Cromwell called it his ‘crowning victory’. Now Parliament had full control of the country.” https://www.bbc.com/timelines/zttpsbk Look for 1652. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle “James and Elizabeth (Hamilton) Somerville James Somerville is of Cambusnethan in Ayrshire, Scotland. James and Elizabeth, by leasing land to native Irish broken the agreement of land ownership, which caused the land which he leased to be forfeited. James and Elizabeth took the Oath of Supremacy, but a lessee Daniel Elliot who was given the position of caulter; purchaser, accountant title the Tullycaulter of Tullykelter, did not take the Oath of Allegiance, a type of loyalty oath for his position of caulter (purchaser-accountant).” Though ‘slaves transported to the colonies’, like Lucio Gomes to Brazil from The Battle of Dunbar, and mine to the Colony of Massachusetts, from The Battle of Worcester, get censored out of the history, but our stories still remain in our genetics. If Brexit does not have a backstop, then the UK parliamentary regime is a dictatorship. It then makes me happy to think of my forefathers stringing up those Tories. Sincerely, Mark Elliott

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John Wilkinson

August 27 @ 11:58am

The 1600s were an UGLY time.

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László Varsányi

August 27 @ 12:13pm

Thank you very much! I finally understood everything and the connections. I already understand the story of your family. This bad is the lack of English. I have to learn.

Mark Elliott

August 27 @ 1:29pm

Unless opportunities such a Scottish Borders National Peace Park is made, the migration to the former colonies, and the ‘lowlands’ of Europe also Germany of people from the Scottish borders is still going on to this day. Remember one does not get to pick their relatives; https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Scocha-Reivers-are-Riding.mp4 From Hawick (pronounced ‘hoik’) Scottish Borders.

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Mark Elliott

August 25 @ 9:10pm

https://books.google.com/books?id=Fde_CQAAQBAJ&pg=PA5&dq=Wilkinson+Quaker+UK&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjUwsnPvZ_kAhVRip4KHYAOAeIQ6AEwAHoECAQQAg#v=onepage&q=%22john%20Wilkinson%22%20Quaker%20UK&f=false In 1654 my family was in the Colony of Massachusetts, a Charles II, Hamiltonian from Tullykelter,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle Co Fermanagh, Ulster Plantation, Ireland, Anglican-Episcopalian Royalist, previous border Ellot from the Scottish side of the border, of the Scottish Middle March neighbors to those Wilkinson who we considered family if one considers medieval mafia as family, of the English Middle March. Even if you are a relative, of Auld Wat of Harden, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Scott_of_Harden which cousins of my family of mine joined in on rescue this Kinmont Willie from Carlisle Castle in 1596, if you were a Quaker back in that era they bound to stick you in prison. In c.1655 think they disliked the Quakers more than the border reivers they ‘pacified’ (another word for genocide). There is an old proverb which assures that truth be told by laughing; La Prision d’Édimbourg (The Prision of Edinburgh) By Walter Scott https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Scott “2 There is an old proverb which assures that truth be told by laughing. The existence Walter Scott third son of Sir William Scott of Harden is educated as they say by charter bearing the great seal Domino William Scott of Harden militi and Walter Scott “suo legitimo tertio genito terrarum” (world,legitimate begotten) of Roberton. (See the Baronage of Douglas page 215). The old gentleman left his four sons considerable estates and gave those of Eilrig de Raeburn to his third. He who is the ancestor of Scott Raeburn and Waverly. author 11 Appears to have converted to the Quakers or Friends’ doctrine and became a great advocate of principles. It was probably when George Fox, the apostle of the sect, made a nun in the north of Scotland about 1657 AC. It is on this occasion that he says that as soon as the horse had set foot on the land of Scotland he felt the seed of grace shining around him like countless sparks. At the same time no doubt that Sir Gideon of Highchester’s second son William and the ancestor of the friend and parent of the author the representative of the family of Harden also embraced Quakerism. Gideon the latter converted entered into controversy with the Rev. James Kirkton author of the true and secret history of Scotland, which is mentioned by my ingenious friend Charles Kirkpatrick Sharpe in this remarkable and curious edition of this work in 1817. Sir William Scott, the Brethren of the Brothers, remained in the midst of this defection an orthodox member of the church Presbyterian and us a uproot Walter de Raeburn to his heresy means that were more of persecution than persuasion. He was helped in his efforts by MacDougal of Makerston brother of Isabelle MacDougal wife of Walter and who like her husband had adopted the religion of Quakers Sir William Scott’s influence and that of Makerston were powerful enough to obtain two subsequent acts of the Privy Council of Scotland against Walter de Raeburn as heretic quakerism the co-inventor to be imprisoned first in the Edinburgh….” https://books.google.com/books?id=Q8IBc4HvDSgC&pg=PA10&dq=%22Walter+de+Raeburn%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiDguOZh9PYAhVD32MKHR69DOkQ6AEISjAE#v=onepage&q=%22Walter%20de%20Raeburn%22&f=false

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John Wilkinson

August 27 @ 7:54am

This is intriguing, but insofar as Wilkinson is concerned, I think we have to concentrate on the DNA and not the surmnaming. The Wilkinson project has at least 10 or more separate Y-haplo family clusters. The Y differences mean these can’t be commonly descended lines. Which must mean that the surname was independently adopted in different regions by different lines independently. But that too is a fascinating artifact. I presume it is because surnaming was a Norman convention and post conquest, I imagine William was a very popular male name.

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Mark Elliott

August 26 @ 1:48pm

John Wilkinson; https://forebears.io/surnames/wilken#meaning “Borrowed into Gaelic with Mac prefixed it becomes Macguilcein, in Anglicized spelling Macwilkin. Wilkyn 1558, Wylkyne 1542.” — The Surnames of Scotland (1946) by George Fraser Black (1866-1948) Y-DNA used in genealogy goes back an extreme amount of time. Surname naming can just begin to reach back into Y-DNA time. Bias and information sharing is how genealogy is done among family. Mom was raised by her father ‘Stephen Peter Barna’, a German speaking Slavic, where ‘Stephen’ and ‘Peter’ have linguistic German origins. and ‘Barna’, is mainly ‘Hungarian’. Though ‘Stephen’ seems to be a very strong Scottish name. Scandinavian patterns of naming are ‘-son’ (Anglo), ‘-sen’ (Danish, Norwegian, Icelandic), ‘-sson’ (Swedish), ‘Mac-‘ (Gaelic-Scots, Catholic), ‘Mc-‘ (Gaelic Scots, Ulster, Ireland Presbyterian). Wilkinson, is Norfolk, East Anglia. Yes, John Wilkinson, you have that Viking ‘Mac-‘ in you, but they split went north, and around to the western side of North Scotland. That is where you are receiving your ‘Mc-/Mac-‘ matches from. You may not have traveled to Norway, and onto northwest Scotland and became a ‘Mac-‘, but your Y-DNA has. note in English; Swenson R-ZZ19_1 J1b1b2 Likely ‘Swenson’; means ‘a son of a Swede’.

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László Varsányi

August 26 @ 2:14pm

Very interesting and one could learn the research methods of Mark Elliott. Max will be happy again for this post, and he understands English more easily than I do, so He’ll adjust to the other pages he showed him.

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Mark Elliott

August 26 @ 2:51pm

John Wilkinson, There is this whole army of genealogists, which know what they are doing out of Provo, Utah, USA. A school named for an Anglo-Borderer like us called, ‘Brigham Young’, and I would like to see what they as a group can come up with given some of the information; Calkins R-DF25 “Hugh Calkins immigrated to America, ca. 1640, one of a “Welsh Party” who emigrated from Chapstown, Monmouthshire, England. They settled first at Green’s Harbour, Plymouth Colony; moved to Glouchester, Massachusetts Bay Colony, in 1641, and to New London, Connecticut, in 1651. Hugh Calkins moved to Norwich, Connecticut, in 1661 and died at Norwhich in 1690, at about age 90. Descendants and relatives listed lived in Connecticut, New York, Michigan, Utah, and elsewhere.” https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/735504?availability=Family%20History%20Library https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/333865?availability=Family%20History%20Library https://www.google.com/maps/place/Chepstow,+UK/@51.2862093,-2.2910543,8.04z/

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Mark Elliott

August 26 @ 3:33pm

In response to; John Wilkinson 9 hours ago I have about 200 “Mac” matches. Quite a few names. I didn’t analyze distribution. Maybe a slight plurality of MacDonald. But quite a few other “Mac”s. Almost all Y12 with a few Y25. One of the Y25 MacDonalds does list an Angus MacDonald b. ~1727 in Scotland,though doesn’t specify where. At Y25 (nothing higher) only 10x “Mac” matches, but MacDonald ties with Mackie at 2 each and both of those are behind Mackenzie with 3. John Wilkinson 8 hours ago “Mc” matches are over 800 counting Y12. If I filter to Y25 (nothing higher) it drops to about 25. No real pattern though a couple McDonalds.

John Wilkinson

August 27 @ 7:25am

This is intriguing. I posted a picture of my GGGF’s family a few months ago on eon of the Scots Irish projects (I can’t remember which one). A fellow on there who was raised in Antrim near Larne was struck at how similar my GGF (who was about 10 in the picture) resembled a boy named Wilkinson that he had gone to primary school with. Possibly just coincidence, but intriguing to have someone startled by a resemblance in a location my family had left nearly three centuries ago. Shortly after that, I found a couple articles. One that discussed Viking remains that included 4x U152 and 2x of those were L20 like me. And another that discussed how Larne Ireland had been a Viking settlement, but ultimately was absorbed into surrounding Irish community after decisive defeat of Vikings by local Celtic King. Here’s an alternative hypothesis: my line is Danish Viking (maybe rump Celtic Cimbri line from Jutland since we are U152 and not the usual U106). A clan of us came to British Isles in ~800s AD. Paternally Y related kin established lines in what is now Northumbria/Borders/Lothians, my line shipped over to Larne. The matching I have is picking up that old split between brothers or father/son. All speculation, but possible. However, as per your other post, I need to check the possible Armagh connection. Especially since Black (my only other BigY match) seems to have a strong presence there.

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Mark Elliott

August 26 @ 7:56pm

https://forebears.io/surnames Anne ‘Anna’ Murphy spouse James Ryan B. 6 May 1850 Kilkenny Co, Ireland D. 4 Jun 1933 Troy, Rensselaer Co, NY, USA She came to America (NY) ca 1867 with her sister after her father had died in Kingston, Canada. After working 2 yrs in NY City, she & Mary sent money for their mother & 3 younger brothers for `passage’ from Ireland. Information in letter from Aunt Kitty in 1965. She resided in Albany & Troy while in the USA. She emigrated to this country at the age of 18 in 1874 and could read. She had red hair. James Ryan Limerick Co, Ireland, United Kingdom B. 1856 Limerick Co, Ireland, UK M. 1881 Albany, Albany Co. NY (Age 25) Note; https://farrelldna.blogspot.com/ Related to Ryan. Inf from `Kitty’ who indicated it from family album. He made his residence in America in Albany & Troy, NY. He died suddenly of a heart attack at age of 50. Some of his children inherited weak hearts. Information received from Rosemary (Bly) Gavitt shows him born in 1850. He had worked on the railroad and came from County Cork, Ireland. Information through; Loren Spencer Elliott Since over four and a half million people have the surname ‘Smith’, and about nine hundred and fifty thousand have the surname ‘Young’, for genealogical research they are at a high level of importance.

Mark Elliott

August 26 @ 7:35pm

https://forebears.io/surnames/illsley https://www.google.com/maps/place/East+Ilsley,+UK/@51.5257508,-1.3338229,13z/ Ilsley, E&W of Berkinshire is a place name where you find a concentration of the surname Davis. The place name may have been taken from a people called ‘Ilsley’, but the name traveled north to the Debatable Lands.

Mark Elliott

August 26 @ 5:49pm

Team is coming together.

Mark Elliott

August 26 @ 4:52pm

Smith likely a variant of the German name Schmidt, like ‘Helga Schmidt’. Smith is Irish Catholic, Anglicized to a Smith, Lancashire name. Did not seem to make it much into Ulster, but the family Irish name Murphy did. Note; https://farrelldna.blogspot.com/ Related to Ryan. Difference between ‘Smith’ and ‘Young’, is that ‘Smith’ crossed over from England into Ireland, and ‘Young’ from the borderlands made it into Ulster – North(ern) Ireland. The above is in honor my mother; Alma Barna Elliott. https://elwald.com/almas-moms-mtdna-h27a-16129a-16316g-263g-315-1c/

Mark Elliott

August 26 @ 12:08pm

https://forebears.io/surnames/ My name is of Elwald, but Eliot (Norman) + Ellot (Scots) = Elliot ‘Norman’ genocide of the Saxon ‘Elwald’ name, they do not even like the Scottish Angus name of ‘Ellot’, though it is felt they will eat Angus beef. John Wilkinson, on the English side of the border you better watch out for them Grahams, in-laws you know. Some carry up from Grantham the J-DNA, from those Ancient Romans. https://gorrenberry.com/graham-grantham-ancient-roman-j-m267-dna/

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Mark Elliott

August 25 @ 1:10pm

http://www.therjhuntercollection.com/resources/muster-rolls-c-1630/search-muster-rolls/ “My MDKA came from Antrim Ireland. Apparently Larne in Antrim was an old Viking settlement. Perhaps that is the key. But that runs contrary to my matches from Aberdeen and Midlothian. Oy.” If your family is Presbyterian, then your are likely correct, in the highlands of Scotland, to the Gaelic Scots which could have easily Anglicized their Gaelic name into border names, especially on the isles of Argyll, to give name differentiation, and to lean towards the Scots-English that was being spoken there more. Feel the Gaelic, to Wilkinson name change could have if happened, in Co Antrim, where the family may have been Catholic, but turned Presbyterian. This can be seen by the use of Y-DNA, to see if you have Mc-/Mac- matches. Look especially towards the ‘Mac-‘ because these are the ones which have the tendency of being Catholic, but inserting the first three letters ‘Mac’ into your match Y-DNA search on your home page. Note; more ‘Mc-‘ these days than ‘Mac-‘. https://books.google.com/books?id=mZt3oGtk1KgC&pg=PA265&dq=Wilkinson+Co+Antrim,+Ulster&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjqz8b14J7kAhWI9Z4KHRhqA1cQ6AEwB3oECAkQAg#v=onepage&q=Wilkinson%20Co%20Antrim%2C%20Ulster&f=false

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John Wilkinson

August 26 @ 6:20am

Thanks for that Martin book lead, I wasn’t familiar with his work. I am familiar with the thread on Ancestry and have tried unsuccessfully to contact Ray McQuilkin. It’s a tantalizing lead, especially since at least some ended up in North Carolina. Unfortunately I have no Rathlin Project matches over Y12, and to my knowledge I’ve not seen any U152 on Rathlin Project. But its a pretty small cohort. The surname and the proximity to Antrim/Rathlin/Kintyre/Islay make it theoretically plausible, I just don’t have any matching yet that allows me to hang the argument on. I have one Y67 match who was adopted out of Aberdeen, but believes he has identified his paternal line to MacNeil on Tiree in mid-1700s. That guts me to the Western Isles, but that very small and indirect near miss, is about as close as I get. And unfortunately traces to MacNeill rather than MacDonald which is what you’d think. I know “true” MacDonald is R1a. So if I have a MacDonald linkage, it would be only by clan/sept affiliation, not descent. I’ll post my Rathlin and Mac/Mc matches and see what you think.

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John Wilkinson

August 26 @ 6:26am

Here are Rathlin matches, all Y12 only, except the first: Black R-BY69713 Boyd R-M269 Morrison R-M269 McKeehan R-L21 Faul R-BY4221 U2e3 Black R-BY68417 Wilkins R-M269 Swenson R-ZZ19_1 J1b1b2 Mccurdie R-M269 Calkins R-DF25 Davis (Illsley/Hildesley) R-BY19437 McFaul R-M269 The first Black is a BigY match of mine. I don’t think he has known descent from Rathlin, he joined after we matched. So far as I know, he can only trace to Tyrone in mid-1800s. He’s my deepest Yhaplo match at BY69713, but on STRs we are only Y12, which continues to baffle me. The Wilkins match is one of those weird matches with no account linkage (deceased?). Only M269 which doesn’t tell much. The Calkin name is interesting. I’ve seen arguments that McCulkin is a variant of McQuilkin, but I’ve found no matching to me that really supports this claim. There is one McQuilken fellow on the project, but he and I don’t match even at Y12.

John Wilkinson

August 26 @ 6:56am

I have about 200 “Mac” matches. Quite a few names. I didn’t analyze distribution. Maybe a slight plurality of MacDonald. But quite a few other “Mac”s. Almost all Y12 with a few Y25. One of the Y25 MacDonalds does list an Angus MacDonald b. ~1727 in Scotland,though doesn’t specify where. At Y25 (nothing higher) only 10x “Mac” matches, but MacDonald ties with Mackie at 2 each and both of those are behind Mackenzie with 3.

John Wilkinson

August 26 @ 7:07am

“Mc” matches are over 800 counting Y12. If I filter to Y25 (nothing higher) it drops to about 25. No real pattern though a couple McDonalds.

Mark Elliott

August 25 @ 10:33am

https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/home https://named.publicprofiler.org/ This Farrell, compliments the Farrar, and Forrow.

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Mark Elliott

August 25 @ 10:32am

Placing this back into the blog, it went viral, thank you Stephanie Ray.

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Mark Elliott

August 24 @ 11:40am

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Gresham_Grissom?iframe=yresults https://indo-european.eu/tag/proto-germanic/ https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/people-of-the-british-isles-project-and-viking-settlement-in-england/54E19CAFF9AC2BEB39EAEC826BEDBC63 May be difficult to believe, but the Gresham, are from Gresham. Though 101829 Elliott Germany R-U106. matches many Gresham R-L21, first 12 markers, which is said by FTDNA to be most likely previous to surname. Since the generations go back previous to 30 generations I would agree. Being that Schinkel is a region of R-U106 and moated Castle Grisham is in a region of R-21, my Y-DNA ancestor with the Anglo-Saxon name of Elwald migrated along known paths of the Anglo-Germanic Danish from the Viking-Danish region of Schinkel as an Y-DNA admix near the Vikings of Hereby, to Gresham Castle Norfolk, East Anglia region of what is now England.

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Mark Elliott

August 24 @ 10:26am

https://indo-european.eu/tag/proto-germanic/

Mark Elliott

August 18 @ 11:05am

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Mark Elliott

August 18 @ 7:50pm

Martijn Niekus, Goed om een Martijn/Martÿn/Martyn/Martin Nijckes/Nÿckes/Nyckes/Nickes uit Nederland te hebben. Waarschijnlijk een sterke kennis in verschillende talen, plus kan Y-DNA achternaam concentratiepatronen lezen. Heeft u Kerr/Carr DNA-overeenkomsten?

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John Wilkinson

August 24 @ 7:38am

What is the source of this data? I’m intrigued by the notion that U152 had an appreciable presence in East Anglia and Yorkshire, then heads to Lancashire and Cumbria and up to Scotland? Is this based on ancient remains analysis? Current Y haplo distribution? Is the arrow direction an interpretive estimate based on relative density? This is all very interesting but I don’t quite understand what it implies, nor what actual metrics its based on. I joined the Yorkshire and East Anglia projects hoping that it might show some linkages to trace my Scotland matches back to, but it was a bust. Very few Y25 in Yorkshire and none in East Anglia. No clear indication any Y12 or Y25 are same Y Haplo as me (U152 or more refined, e.g. Z367 or L20). I’d love to find that my U152 line dates to bronze age, or even La Tene, but so far I haven’t seen any way to determine when, where or how it arrived anywhere/anytime between ~2200BC and Norman Conquest. It seems like it could have come in anywhere in between, maybe with slightly higher probability of Roman period and/or Norman, but that is just a guess. Recent Viking remains had 4x U152 samples, 2 of which were L20, which was surprising and gave me some hope perhaps that was a key. That was actually why I joined Yorkshire and East Anglia, but hit a dry hole again. My MDKA came from Antrim Ireland. Apparently Larne in Antrim was an old Viking settlement. Perhaps that is the key. But that runs contrary to my matches from Aberdeen and Midlothian. Oy.

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László Varsányi

August 21 @ 12:52pm

Dear Mark Elliott, I came to the point that I could finally take the time to write to you. I’m very curious about your opinion, though in truth I didn’t want to post it here. In my opinion, something is wrong with the timely placement of haplogroups. I specify. Inaccurate. It is based on estimates. If a factor in an equation is incorrect, we believe it to be real. We’ll keep counting. Although all data is correct afterwards and seems to be related to all data in the equation, the end result will be banally misinformative. Or to put it another way, if I want to draw a ruler horizontally, but the ruler moves 1mm, it gives a visible difference of cm within 1 meter. Because I don’t speak English, the translator may be inaccurate, I trust you understand what I mean.

Mark Elliott

August 23 @ 12:03pm

Genealogy is not rocket science, but I feel for FTDNA to make sales they like to make it look like rocket science, when starting with 30 years/generation, in their TIP calculator, at a measurement of one significant value, and coming up with answers to the nearest hundredths of a percent, to four significant figures which mathematically is impossible to increase the number of significant figures from the original 30 years/generation which only has one significant figure at the tens digit, two if it is specified that the ‘0’ the units digit is significant in the measurement. This shows the level of expertise in mathematics which FTDNA portrays. Extremely basic to rules of mathematical measurement. When Y-DNA is integrated to previously established forms of genealogical research, such as surname place locality, and census, surname concentration, this is when Y-DNA becomes much more useful, when integrated and working in conjunction with the already previously established methods in doing genealogical research.

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László Varsányi

August 23 @ 11:22pm

Mr. Mark Elliott. Thank you for your answer.

Mark Elliott

August 23 @ 11:43am

“But isn’t Y12 simply to small a spread to definitively prove that P312 is much younger? Maybe I’m not following the argument accurately though. How do you eliminate random convergence/divergence as a confounder?” https://elwald.com/clan-elliot-29th-chief-margaret-eliott-of-redhuegh-stobs/ The chief a single child, is chief 29, that means it goes back 29 generations, with the first 10 names Robert Elwald, the next five or so Robert Ellot. Family the Elliott, of my generation, in family of three sons, dad’s younger brother, with dad being twin to a sister, had tree sons, one with a twin sister. Family my generational line pron to having sons. Maragaret the 29th chief is the first lady chief. We are within a year of age. Both fathers had older sisters, and were top notched with help from mom genealogists. Margaret close as I can figure 17th cousin twice removed. Her line based on first son that is why the twice removed. For her family my family’s 27 generations, make her family’s 29 generations. At 29 generations 12/12 is the same for 37/37.

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Mark Elliott

August 19 @ 3:54am

László Varsányi thank Dzanaiti (Iranian-Canadian) of the German blog for this one (been kicked off again). Also thank; ALEX von NAUMANN information on I-M253 and his map he supplied.

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László Varsányi

August 19 @ 3:07pm

Thank you Mark Elliott for all the helpful advice and help from you and others who are also open to the world. And again I have a new theory… I’ll be back tomorrow night, I worked a lot today.

John Wilkinson

August 21 @ 4:16pm

But isn’t Y12 simply to small a spread to definitively prove that P312 is much younger? Maybe I’m not following the argument accurately though. How do you eliminate random convergence/divergence as a confounder?

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Mark Elliott

August 19 @ 4:09am

II. JOHN BELL – THE PARTICLE PHYSICIST https://arxiv.org/pdf/1605.08081.pdf Bell graduated with First-Class Honours in Experimental Physics in 1948 at Queen’s University Belfast, where the senior staff members of the Physics Department were Karl Emeleus and Robert Sloane. He spent an additional year at the University and obtained a second degree in Mathematical Physics, where his teacher was the famous crystallographer Peter Paul Ewald. Subsequently, in 1949, he got a position the Atomic Energy Research Establishment (AERE) at Harwell, Oxfordshire, but was soon sent to the Telecommunications Research Establishment (TRE) at Malvern, Worcestershire. There he began to work in accelerator physics, see Sect. III. In 1951, the accelerator group at Malvern moved to the Atomic Energy Research Establishment (AERE) at Harwell, Oxfordshire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Peter_Ewald (a refugee from Hitler’s Germany). One of those ‘elk (moose) of the woods’, people from the Berlin area.

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Mark Elliott

August 17 @ 6:58pm

https://named.publicprofiler.org/ by demand

Mark Elliott

August 17 @ 5:27pm

http://www.therjhuntercollection.com/resources/muster-rolls-c-1630/search-muster-rolls/ (Williams also Wilson) https://forebears.io/surnames/williamson Simon Williamson, The difference, is that your relatives went to Ulster, and my relatives came from Ulster.

Mark Elliott

August 17 @ 12:54pm

https://forebears.io/surnames/williamson https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Finding that some names are older then others. It is felt that the name ‘Williamson’ was shorten to ‘Wilson’. As far as getting a closer interpretation to surname migration, lucky this ‘Williamson’ of Yorkshire inputted into this blog. To find out were the ‘Mc-‘ came from one needs to take a look at the ‘Mac-‘. Such as for ‘McDoe’, to find the origins look at the ‘MacDoe’, because that is what the ‘McDoe’, started from. For ‘Wilson’, one would look towards the name ‘Williamson’ to find out where the ‘Wilson’ originated. The ‘Mac-‘, ‘Mc-‘, and ‘-son’, indicate a Scandinavian naming pattern where the son takes the father’s personal name as a surname, but ‘-son’, is of the ‘-sen’, Danish to Anglo origins. https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/ utilizes proper sampling procedures and an international staff, leaving out the surnames to get genetic placement throughout the UK in the most accurate fashion. Finding the ones which do the least amount of migration would have the greatest tendency for surname retention. Like a ‘Williamson’ in Yorkshire, would most likely not changed the surname to ‘Wilson’, as those which migrated beyond Yorkshire, and into Scotland, Ulster, then onto the Colonies. It is not always by war one population takes over another genetically, or else the major Y-DNA would likely be a ‘J-DNA’ ‘Ancient Roman’, for the UK, but it is not. It is felt that East Anglia – Yorkshire, are door-ways for a good part of the population to today’s England, as shown by PoBI (People of the British Isles). Those with the name ‘Williamson’, need to check their Y-DNA matches and see if there are ‘Wilson’, if from Yorkshire beyond them in Scotland, Ulster, then in the Colonies. These would be relatives which migrated onward.

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Mark Elliott

August 17 @ 11:41am

Mark Elliott

August 9 @ 10:32am

https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Now I know I am in great trouble with Simon Williamson, sticking his surname out in the Orkney Islands. It is called ‘surname seeding’, The people in Yorkshire-East Anglia took on their surnames much earlier then the ones in the Orkney Islands. The Navajo American Indians took on there surnames within about the past century. There even is a line of Elliott, pasted on by a Mid West US, protestant missionary. The Orkney Islands likely did not speak the Scottish-English language likely a form of Norwegian in which a name ending with ‘-son’ would show Norwegian ‘-sen’ compatibility. In the Anglicization of the language and the adoption of surnames, with the surname Williamson being introduced in the region it was adopted by people in the Orkney Islands. A shadow of it’s Anglican distribution does show Yorkshire. Which makes Simon Williamson input, to the genealogy of Yorkshire extremely important. The name Williamsen shows a Norwegian concentration. https://forebears.io/surnames/williamsen The name could also be from the Norwegian, ‘Williamsen’, changed to the Anglo-English ‘Williamson’. It should be noted that the distribution pattern of Wilkinson in England, shows that of Anglo-Danish Northumbria. People of the British Isles Population Genetics and Facial Genetics https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/ As Simon Williamson knows; us Armstrong, and Elliott, of the Scottish Middle March Borderlands, and of County Fermanagh, Ulster Ireland we are just a bunch of trouble makers. Likely goes, and I think he would be agreeing with Chief Margaret Eliott of Redheugh, Scotland just south of The Hermitage Castle, it likely goes for that ‘vagabond’, in the Four Corners of New Mexico, USA also. Simon Williams, it may help you to look at ‘Wilson’. It may help you to compare it to the ‘Williamson’, census surname hot-spot distribution pattern.

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John Wilkinson

August 9 @ 12:41pm

That PoBI map is really cool. I wish they listed what markers they were relying on for their categories though. That could be very helpful for those of us looking clues about where best to try to pick up long lost trails.

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Mark Elliott

August 9 @ 11:59pm

Garrett Hellenthal – The Genetic History of the United Kingdom: the POBI project https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ANNHMzmxlI

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John Wilkinson

August 12 @ 9:31am

That POBI video was very interesting. I wish that project could be consulted for diaspora analysis to give a “most similar to” rating for whatever region of British Isles one most closely approximated.

László Varsányi

August 17 @ 11:37am

Hi Max! Did you get my most recent letter what I was write to you? I’m writing here now to see if you read it sooner. Can you submit a link to a study on Viking U152 Remnant Samples? László

Mark Elliott

August 9 @ 2:52pm

https://forebears.io/surnames/pedersen John Wilkenson, Seems like things correlate well with what you are saying. Hawick pronounced ‘hoik’, is where the single ‘t’ Elliot are concentrated. Garrett Hellenthal – The Genetic History of the United Kingdom: the POBI project shows autosomal DNA genetics, showing populations distribution. In a study which surnames are not use and therefore do not muddy the waters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ANNHMzmxlI

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John Wilkinson

August 12 @ 9:36am

Interesting indeed. I am L2 as well.

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John Wilkinson

August 12 @ 9:38am

But my downtrace runs U152>L2>Z367>L20>BY69713>FT20578

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John Wilkinson

August 12 @ 9:46am

Mr. Wilson is a Y12 match to me, though we are obviously remote since he is DF103. Still, encouraging to find another U152 in the neighborhood that some of my higher level matching seems to be pointing.

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Mark Elliott

August 10 @ 12:05am

https://www.libraryireland.com/gregg/gregg-volume.pdf Showing the DNA from the different languages of Argyll, Scotland, and Borders, seem to carry their distinguishable respective DNAs into the Ulster Plantation.

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Mark Elliott

August 9 @ 9:57am

Wilsons were neighbors to my Elliot family in County Fermanagh, Ireland; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle

Mark Elliott

August 9 @ 8:34am

http://www.therjhuntercollection.com/resources/muster-rolls-c-1630/search-muster-rolls/ Note, may want to try the name ‘Wilson’, note, it is Ellot in 1630 without ‘i’. Wilson, Wilkinson, and Williamson, in 1630 are County Fermanagh, Ulster Plantation names. Wilson, ‘the son of Will’, Williamson, ‘the son of William’, Wilkinson, ‘Will’s kin’s son’. “I also found the Brexit snip a little bit childist”, is likely the greatest commit made, because I know I made that commit, and this tells me that Simon Williamson genuine in what he says. ‘True born and bred Yorkshireman’. Y-DNA traveled for Simon’s DNA to get to ‘Yorkshireman’. Democracy is a difficult type of government. The UK voted for ‘Brexit’ period. The question the UK has to ask is did the voters vote for ‘Brexit with a Backstop’, or ‘Brexit without a Backstop’? If the UK goes against the vote of the people then it is not a democracy. My DNA traveled with the people which name ended in “-son”, the Anglo-Saxon, to the Anglo border and because we supported the Catholic mother of Protestant James I of England. Dand Ellot of Scotland 1607 which became Daniel Elliott of County Fermanagh 1610, was exiled to where the Brexit-EU border is to be wrapped around, the tower of in Gorrenberry, Scottish border side was destroyed and you can imagine what happened to family which lived there by the army of the kingdom of England. We intermarried with the local Fermanagh, Ulster, Irish, when we lived on the Scottish-English border the borderers Scots and English also intermarried, we were just trying to stay alive. Robert Bell of Ulster wrote this but as far as the UK is concerned it falls on death ears; https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ , but the Germans are listening, and this genocide shows up in my Y-DNA. Family also fought for Charles II, and as your Parliament says, and laughs at ‘transported as slaves to the colonies’. After Cromwell, Charles II became king. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SELLING-SCOTS-AS-SLAVES-IS-FUNNY-TO-THE-TORIES-2.mp4?_=1 No wonder my family is proud of their 1776 separation from the crown of England, and strung up some Tories in the process. But “w’e fur hame” and trying to find our roots; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Scots-Irish-Americans-come-home-to-Ulster..mp4?_=13 We carried our stories of far off places in the ballads we sing; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/ballads-of-the-Border-Reivers..mp4?_=17 There are even “Wilson” types among us; https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/President-Obama-on-the-influence-of-Ulster-settlers-on-America..mp4?_=29 https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/From-Ulster-to-US-surname-Wilson.mp4?_=30

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John Wilkinson

August 9 @ 9:54am

Very interesting, thanks for that resource link! I was not familiar with it. So far as I know, my MDKA is a Thomas Wilkinson b. ~1700. He may have been born in Ireland, or Scotland, or maybe English Borders. I do know there were Wilkinson Reivers out of Northumberland. I believe they rode with Armstrongs but not positive. There was a small “clan” of them in Coquetdale as early as late 1300s. I’ve no solid evidence connecting my line to them, but it is intriguing. I have other Wilkinson matches who trace to Northern Ireland. As does my only BigY700 match, who is surnamed Black.

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Mark Elliott

August 9 @ 9:32am

https://named.publicprofiler.org/

John Wilkinson has a question!

August 9 @ 7:07am

“If anyone on here knows of any Wilkinson (or variants) who ultimately left Yorkshire for Northumberland and/or East Lothian/Midlothian/Angus/Perthshire/Aberdeen please let me know. I joined this group, because I have a Y37 match with same surname whose MDKA traces to North Ireland in 1820s. My MDKA traces to Antrim ~1700. My match’s line, based on Ancestry.com trees (I’ve never been able to communicate with my match) seems to trace to Midlothian and then East Lothian. Other trees on Ancestry indicate that the Wilkinson line ultimately traces back to Yorkshire. I have another Y67 match who was adopted out of Aberdeen. However, I was somewhat surprised that and advance match search of only members from this project was very sparse and yielded nothing over Y12 level. Of course it could just be that there aren’t enough members yet. ”

Simon Williamson has a question!

August 9 @ 3:35am

“I have a question, why is this group called Yorkshire? All the recent posts seem to have nothing to do with Yorkshire ancestry. Perhaps the group should be renamed to reflex its current content. I also found the Brexit snipe a little childish. From a true born and bred Yorkshireman. ”

Mark Elliott

August 8 @ 2:53pm

It is hope this “German”, “Danish”, “Anglo-Saxon”, “Scottish”, “Ulster-Fermanagh”, “American”, story supported and brought to my attention by a suit dressed volunteer, in a newly built Family History Library, on the west side of Temple Square, not in the old upper floors of The Church of Later Day Saints office building just north of The Hotel Utah, architect on the northern side has the surname of a family which traveled to Salt Lake with someone of a great Scottish Border name Brigham Young, ‘brig’, for ‘bridge’ like ‘rig’ for ‘ridge’, Scottish, ‘ham’ for ‘home’, this Anglo-Saxon is a ‘bridge’ for ‘home’, that which takes place in The Family History Library, Salt City, Utah, in other words in my Scottish a ‘BRIGHAM’. The volunteer, of the Family History Library, who brought THE CHRONICLES to my attention was surnamed; ARMSTRONG. https://archive.org/details/chroniclesofarms00arms/page/31 https://books.google.com/books/about/The_History_of_Liddesdale_Eskdale_Ewesda.html?id=nFr7oQEACAAJ https://gorrenberry.com/armstrong-fairbairn-m253-y-dna/ https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied/

Mark Elliott

August 1 @ 2:31am

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/deletedlongago/about

Mark Elliott

August 1 @ 2:18am

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/-?iframe=yresults

Mark Elliott

July 31 @ 10:24am

FTDNA Germany, seems to be interested in my R1b-U106, though I am not still with them. For proto-germanic DNA such as R1b-U106; https://indo-european.eu/tag/proto-germanic/

Mark Elliott

July 31 @ 9:01am

“Dedication (made by James V. Elliott instrumental in this excellent Y-DNA site) This web page is dedicated to my grandfather, John Elliott, whom I never knew. He was born in Drumhome Parish, County Donegal, Ireland in 1878, the son of James Elliott and Isabella Graham (an Elliott marrying a Graham?). He worked in road construction for his brother, Robert Elliott, before emigrating to the United States in 1904.” note; Robert and James, names of my brothers. Elliott (And Border Reivers) DNA Project https://sites.rootsweb.com/~gallgaedhil/ People of Drumhome Parish, County Donegal, James V. Elliott’s ancestors stay in the EU, where my ancestors of Tullykelter, County Fermanagh, UK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle end up with Brexit.

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Mark Elliott

July 31 @ 8:27am

Clan Irwin Surname DNA Study https://sites.google.com/a/clanirwin.org/dnastudy/ An example of an excellent in progress Clan DNA Study. It may be Steve(n) Irwin, Rush, and Young, but Stephen (OK Stephanie), is strong in both the kingdoms, of Scotland, and England, and on the borders and into the Ulster Plantation and beyond.

Mark Elliott

July 30 @ 6:21pm

‘Old English word wassingatun’, indications show Anglo-Saxon, like the names, Ælwald which evolves into Elwald. It is a place locality name with the ‘-tun’ and ‘-ton’, of Yorkshire-Northumberland, with today’s population of Washington in the UK found in Lincolnshire. Name by locality possibilities shows Scandinavians. So much research has been done on George, do not have the research knowledge to make conclusions on him.

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Mark Elliott

July 30 @ 11:05am

http://www.ldsliving.com/The-Surprising-Reason-Steve-Young-Didn-t-Serve-a-Mission/s/82995 László Varsányi, After Steve Young, became a famous American football player, he did visit schools. As a teacher of science did see him at Window Rock High School (Window Rock, the capitol of the Navajo Nation) which is in Fort Defiance, Arizona (Navajo ‘Tséhootsooí’), Arizona. The land which the high school was on bordered New Mexico on the east. Navajo are indigenous Athabaskan language based, and Y-DNA based C-DNA. Navajo of the southwest as the Dineh in Canada, phonetically call themselves da-neigh meaning ‘the people’. The Quakers never did parade around Richard Millhous Nixon. In genealogy to do it properly one does not get to throw out the in-laws.

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László Varsányi

July 30 @ 12:25pm

Thank you for your post what you write to me. Over time I will know better English. I think we’ll communicate a lot of things. I used to read research on toponyms. I have done a lot of research myself too.

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Mark Elliott

July 30 @ 12:32pm

https://named.publicprofiler.org/ When toponyms are used as surnames, which correlates with census surname concentration distribution locality, then it is most certain that is where the surname originated. Especially in the English-Scottish language in the UK if found in England between about 1,100-1,300 the name of ‘John de Doe’, meaning ‘John of Doe’, then the ‘de’ is dropped becoming ‘John Doe’, and you find a mapped locality of it. If the name has a suffix of ‘-ton’, ‘-law’, ‘-burn’, ‘-burgh’, ‘-borough’ or ‘-ham’ (others), shows it is likely an English-Scottish place name also. Where I match the surnames surnames ‘Cave’, ‘Gresham’, and ‘Scarborough’, (also ‘Dennis’ not a place name) in 12 marker exact matches with my Y-DNA, it is indicative that given these name localities are all near the east coast of England off the North Sea, that my Y-DNA at the time in which these surnames were adopted my Y-DNA was located off the North Sea coast of England. Concentration of these surnames place in between these localities near County Lincolnshire, England.

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László Varsányi

July 30 @ 12:56pm

I understand. I even found an interesting thing. Washington. I read about this … “Washington is one of the names that was brought to England in the wave of migration following the Norman Conquest of 1066. The Washington family lived in Lancashire, at Washington. The name of this village derives from the Old English word wassingatun, meaning a settlement of the people of Wassa, a personal name which combines Old English elements meaning hunt and victory. ‘ Or Wassa people in town. Read it together. Wassaintown. Washington

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