Ervin Erwin Irwin Ivin Irvine Irving

Muirhall Hermitage Castle wind farm

Links;

http://worldnames.publicprofiler.org/

http://named.publicprofiler.org/

http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/

http://forebears.io/surnames/

2/2/2017

Added 6/8/2017

With spelling “Irvine”, land was obtained in Drum, Aberdeenshire.

Following added 6/24/2018 MSE;

http://www.clancarruthers.com/list-of-unruly-reiver-clans-of-1587.html

Clan Irwin Surname DNA Study – Y-DNA Classic Chart – FTDNA

“The Border Marches,” Reiver Surnames, Heraldry, and Place Names.

Brian Charlton MacDonald Moffatt

The History of Liddesdale…, Vol.1, By Robert Bruce Armstrong

Bonshaw Irving Tower

Carruthers I-M253 Y-DNA

Armstrong Fairbairn I-M253 Y-DNA

6/24/2018 MSE

Though, do not want to supersede, a high level genealogist such as James M. Irvine, and for great reason it is felt everyone has good reason to accept his concepts over my, but information indicated by the Armstrong of that Irvina region, and my life experiences living in the southwest US, where surname adoption by indigenous Americans is within the last century, which gives an outside the inner perspective on the thing. It is believed by me given the numbers of NPE of the given region near the Debatable Lands, that it was not NPE among the Borderers, that these border people near the Debatable Lands acquired surnames at a later date like Anglo-Scots would, on various Border names, making them look as though they are NPE, but in fact they are connected Y-DNA previously in the Debatable Lands Region to surname adopting. The Debatable lands is a region of surname incubation, like the southwest US, the Four Corners region where four states UT, NM, AZ and CO, meet on top of the Colorado Plateau is within the past century a surname adoption region for indigenous Americans, predominately Navajo. If you come the Navajo Nation-Reservation, over half the size of the UK, among the Navajo it is almost certain, that Y-DNA links would not be NPE, but previous a century or more ago before the surnames were adopted.

`12/3/2018 MSE

The History of Liddesdale, Eskdale, Ewesdale, Wauchopedale and the Debateable Land: By Robert Bruce Armstrong, Volume 1 Robert Bruce Armstrong published by D. Douglas, 1883 Page i https://books.google.com/books?id=nFr7oQEACAAJ&source=gbs_navlinks_s
Now as one can see in public domain of Google Books. James M. Irvine, can you begin to see why you are obtaining all those NPE, it is because the surnames are drawn from the same region near the same time.
If this is a related book to the above as indicated it must be a good one for the Irvine-Irwin genealogist.
Muniments of the Royal Burgh of Irvine: Miscellaneous muniments. Council book of Irvine. Excerpts from burgh accounts Ayrshire and Galloway archæological association, 1891 – Irvine (Scotland) https://books.google.com/books?id=9tcsAAAAYAAJ&source=gbs_similarbooks
MSE  3/16/2019

 

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