Argyll to NC Colony FTDNA 2020
https://www.bing.com/search?q=barbados+scots
Bing Videos-Die irischen Zuckersklaven von Barbados
Genealogy Garage: Scottish Prisoners of War youtube
Involuntary Americans: Scottish Prisoners in 17th Century Maine youtube
https://www.familytreedna.com/social-photos/4498710?dpr=2&fit=max&h=348&w=590
Clan Elliot – de.Wikipedia.org Germany
Steel Bonnets In Debatatable Lands with George Macdonald Fraser and Eric Robson
Appendix-H-Rowell-Charles-Carroll.pdf
Elwald (Elliot-moose) shares YDNA 25 Markers One Off with the Finch
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https://forebears.io/surnames/finch https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3406944?dpr=2&fit=max&h=571&w=590 Hope everyone a Merry Christmas.
Harold Turner
Never met a Finch, but I am branch kin to a few. Spartanburg thing. Merry Christmas
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DNA is a tool of the genealogists, and Y-DNA can be grouped in family groupings. Which the three groups are called, Red, Blue, and Green. The Green group is the wildlife named group of the ‘finch and elk (moose)’, which I am in. The Red and Blue group likely have different origins. An individual suggest another method of naming likely correct for his particular family group. It is found a ‘de Finch’, a name which could me from/owner of land called Finch. One group above could be from the other group above could be owners of an estate called Finch. Red group to people list Sartanburg, SC. Since two list it and it is near the east coast it is likely all of the red group are from there or near there. It is a location of Scot-Irish (Ulster). Most likley from Ireland including the Scots of Ulster Ireland, to the Carolina. Religious preference, at first likely Presbyterian. Blue group shows, Stamford, CT. Stamford of Stamford Bridge near York indicates Anglican. There is migration from Anglia to this region. It is felt that this group likely migrated directly from the Suffolk (southern people of Anglia) to Connecticut, and settled around Stamford. The above is showing a family processing of grouping. One can snatch any image from an FTDNA blog, by right clicking the ‘cut and past’ (seems to work better in Google) the image address; https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3403780?dpr=2&fit=max&h=455&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3406929?dpr=2&fit=max&h=455&w=590
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مدرسة الفرندز رام الله
مدرسة الكويكرز الفلسطينية التي صمدت 150 عامًا من الحرب والاحتلال – كويكر سبيك
تأسست مدرسة أصدقاء رام الله عام ١٨٦٩ على يد اثنين من الأصدقاء من نيو إنجلاند، حين كانت فلسطين لا تزال تحت الحكم العثماني، وتوسعت لاحقًا لتضم حرمين جامعيين في مدينتي رام الله والبيرة المتجاورتين. وقد أجرت QuakerSpeak مؤخرًا مقابلات عبر تطبيق زووم مع رانيا معايه، مديرة المدرسة، وعمر تسديل، أمين مجلس أمنائها.
صمدت المدرسة لعقود من العنف خلال الاحتلال الإسرائيلي للضفة الغربية، بل وتعرضت لهجمات في بعض الأحيان، لكنها ما زالت مزدهرة. يقول عمر: “عندما يبدو الأمل معدومًا، نسعى جاهدين لتوفير ملاذ آمن يشعر فيه الناس بالترحيب والحرية، بينما هم خارج أسوار المدرسة ليسوا أحرارًا على الإطلاق”.
Family Tree DNA social photos 3719534 (1181×912)
American Friends Service Committee – Speed read – NobelPrize.org
Family Tree DNA social photos 3730883 (1180×884)
Family Tree DNA social photos 3712452 (1180×598)
Поскольку у меня нет доступа к набору FTDNA №101829, пожалуйста, используйте набор YSEQ №4069, чтобы найти для меня семейного историка Марка Стефан Эллиотта.
Family Tree DNA social photos 3730883 (1180×884)
Family Tree DNA social photos 3712452 (1180×598)
Поскольку у меня нет доступа к набору FTDNA №101829, пожалуйста, используйте набор YSEQ №4069, чтобы найти для меня семейного историка Марка Стефан Эллиотта.
Michael Moore: English Civil War: Battle of Worcester 1651 | PBS LearningMedia
Westmorlandia_Cumberlandia_Atlas-Saxton 1576 mP.jpg (8880×7001)
On Will of Robt Elliot and family, New Castle, Kittery, Maine b. 1643 by MSE 5/23/2012
Fathers-Father-4-Robert-Elliot-and-Colonial-Maine-Royalists.pdf MSE
Chasing-my-Y-DNA-part-28.pdf MSE
Difficult to Transcribe plus Confusion and a Result with Clarification-1.pdf MSE-7-19-2012
Graham Grantham Ancient Roman J-M267 DNA – Gorrenberry
File:Sasine deed 1484 for Robert Elwald (Elliot), Redheugh, Larriston, Hartsgarth.jpg – Wikipedia
Armetage-Hermitage-Armestrang-Armstrong-Castle-Bothwell.jpg (1030×960)
FTDNA–social-photos-3719534.jpg (1181×912)
Fathers-Father-4-Robert-Elliot-and-Colonial-Maine-Royalists.pdf MSE
Chasing-my-Y-DNA-part-57.pdf MSE 3-27-2013
A true and exact history of the island of Barbados | Project Gutenberg
Scottish Poetry Selection – Wha Daur Meddle Wi’ Me?
The royal coat of arms in Scotland has the Latin motto “Nemo me impune lacessit“. The English translation of this is “Nobody interferes with me with impunity” and this is often defiantly expressed in broad Scots as “Wha daur meddle wi’ me?” which is the title of this anonymous poem. But on this occasion it is being aggressively repeated by a member of the Elliot family, one of the Border families who not only fought their neighbours but were part of the first line of defence against marauding English invaders – and could sometimes defy the Scottish monarch as well!
File:Sasine deed 1484 for Robert Elwald (Elliot), Redheugh, Larriston, Hartsgarth.jpg – Wikipedia
File:Crozier and Elliot in Upper Liddesdale Blaeu 1654 map.jpeg – Wikipedia
https://www.familytreedna.com/social-photos/3719534
Tullykelter-to-America 3/1/2012 Mark Elliott PDF
Die Riding Clans in Ulster von Robert Bell PDF
File:Sasine deed 1484 for Robert Elwald (Elliot), Redheugh, Larriston, Hartsgarth.jpg – Wikipedia
Elwald-de-Armstrong PDF
Peace On The Border
After the riding we dispersed We drifted home in twos and threes Through cold and rain we spat and cursed This ancient war of families
Peace On The Border
After the riding we dispersed We drifted home in twos and threes Through cold and rain we spat and cursed This ancient war of families
In Barbados Anglican-Royalist Scot POW from the English Civil War 1650 were indentured to the Barbados Plantation, this a precursor to the African slaves.
В этот бесценный момент во всей истории человечества все люди на этой Земле поистине едины – едины в своей гордости за то, что вы сделали, и едины в своих молитвах о вашем благополучном возвращении на Землю.
АСТРОНАВТ АРМСТРОНГ. Спасибо, господин Президент.
The Quakers in Barbados – The untold story – BajanThings
FTDNA Greenspan – Elwald
Daniel Elliot (1637–1704) • FamilySearch
Buie of Jura Y-DNA SNP BY13651 uploads – Gorrenberry
THE USE OF THE SCANDINAVIAN PLACE-NAME ELEMENTS -SÆTR AND -ÆRGI IN SKYE AND THE OUTER HEBRIDES: A SITE AND SITUATION STUDY RYAN FOSTER
The Argyll Colony Plus
theargyllcolonyplus.org/
https://theargyllcolonyplus.org/history/
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/490667
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1012569
http://capefearclans.com/JohnMcPherson2.html
http://www.ralstongenealogy.com/number15kintmag.htm#start
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142188 McLean Daniel/Donald McLean b.c. 1760, poss. Jura, Argyll Scotland I-FT56878 Robert Bell in Ulster Surnames, says strong relation to the Mc/Mac ‘Donald’. Forename ‘Donald’ likely related to the Donald (Mc/Mac), check Y-DNA relation. ‘Daniel’ forename for my Fermanagh line likely from McDaniel not the English Daniel.
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https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Holz,1890:H%C3%B6lz,1890:Holzer,1890:H%C3%B6lzer https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Woodard, do you have any Y-DNA matches with surnames; Hölzer or Holz?
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Some entertainment. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Boat-to-America-Scocha.mp4 Before the genealogy. http://www.capefearclans.com/ArgyllColonists.html
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https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/PREVIEW-Getting-Started-in-Genetic-Genealogy.mp4 PREVIEW: Getting Started in Genetic Genealogy May 24, 2016 Please note for; Mitochondrial DNA exact matches only.
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https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Ott https://named.publicprofiler.org/ John Henry Ott b. 15 Jun 1770, PA, d. 8 Sep 1840
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3471473?dpr=2&fit=max&h=385&w=590 Would consider the name Townsley. https://forebears.io/surnames/townsley
Logan Utt
Hi my name is Scarlet Hiatt. I knew my family came from Scotland but I found documentation that states John Anderson Tow came from Edinburgh Scotland and settled in Davidson NC. I have been in contact with Scotland geneology and they do not show any surname Tow during the 1700-1850. Does anyone know of a different surname that they might have had prior? I found marriage documentation that John Anderson Tow married Prissy Walser in Davidson then they later moved to VA. Eventually the spelling was changed to Towe.Any help would be appreciated.
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Argyll, can ignore, my family is from; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ Can be a bit overwhelming. 918911 Johnston Unknown Origin E-M35 Feel that the E-M35 is from the Kirkpatrick, of the Kirkpatrick, near Johnstone, of Annandale. Also were I figure the Irwin and variants picked it up from. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Armstrong-Elliott-Johnston-Fermanagh-surname-distribution-map.jpg Note; Johnston of Ulster, mainly County Fermanagh, second in number after surname Maguire, which county used to be named from. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3464337?dpr=2&fit=max&h=526&w=590 Felt bad since my father’s Loren Spencer Elliott’s birthday is the day before Saint Patrick Day, a very important, a lot more so important in Armerica then that Saint Andrews Day, forgeting the Kirkpatrick, and their E-M35 Y-DNA which has seemed to spread among, Ervin, Irwin, and Irvin. Do you know what a Saint Patrick uses to drive those snakes out of Ireland. He used a crozier. Symbolizing the cane a Navajo grandma ‘shima’, in dealing with young sheep could hook the neck of a lamb with. Clan Crozier, like the Armstrong, Elliott, and Nixon, are a Scottish Middle March Clan. Yes, Saint Patrick is of the Gaelic, people of Scotland and Ireland, and some of them like the US president’s mother are known to genetically have red hair. It is said those dang Vikings maybe with that I-YDNA gave it to them. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3436456?dpr=2&fit=max&h=357&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3458850?dpr=2&fit=max&h=389&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3436413?dpr=2&fit=max&h=625&w=590 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochmaben_Castle just east of Lockerbie. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/kirkpatrick/dna-results https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/calhoun/dna-results https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/humphrey/dna-results Johns(t)on(e) also; https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/johnson/about/background https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Kirkpatrick from region also. Clan Johnston youtube film; https://youtu.be/tgfkXZnFOqA There are a lot of things around the Irving tower at Bonshaw for Irwin and all those other feuding surnames listed with them from around the world would want to
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https://named.publicprofiler.org/ MacCorquodale north of Oban, Scotland Catholics, likely migration to North Carolina region, becoming McCorquodale, Presbyterians c.1740.
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37 markers seems like the best number, and if you want to buy an SNP at $39, just ask, can give a suggestion with reason.
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Though it likely did not happen in the above. but this scenario could happen. There has been migration from Ulster, of names which settle in the Ulster Plantation, since 1890, mainly into what was once West Germany. A model which may apply to someone in the group. Smith is a good example because many a Gaelic name became the name Smith. http://www.therjhuntercollection.com/resources/muster-rolls-c-1630/search-muster-rolls/ https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Smith,1996:Smith https://www.familytreedna.com/public/EnglandGBGroupseijNorman?iframe=yresults Model also can work for the ‘Hill’ Surname of the T-YDNA grouping. Though ‘Hill’ has a strong showing as a surname in Germany in 1890, unlike ‘Smith’. https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1996:Hill,1890:Hill https://named.publicprofiler.org/ ‘Hill’ and ‘Smith’ are found in the Gaelic region of Argyll, would easily be names which the Argyllians if exposed to may Anglicized to because of the simplicity of a single syllable.
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3452386?dpr=2&fit=max&h=616&w=590 https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about Want to call then the Mormon Moms, or Moms for short. If you do not know how good they are as genealogists, let along geneticists you where not raised as a Mormon male, like I, but when utilizing the Family History Library, in Salt Lake City, Utah, you do not want to be drilled by a mom, as a family genealogist. https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied/ Note; The Mormons because of their beliefs are top rated genealogist. Both Jame M. Irvine, and I are amateurs. The guide team also got hooked on genealogy, and like them because they are independent of corporation, and put the family and it’s history ahead of the genetics, the horse comes before the buggy, genetics-DNA is an additional tool of the genealogists. If information is passed down from the family, take that as the most correct information you can get, and as your base information, then branch of it. This information can start a tree, if it is a GED file, uploaded to a DNA site which finds DNA matches, but make sure this sprig never changes and keep it also as a separate base file, and let it grow. The biggest problem I get into is some so called ‘expert’, would try to change your base file. When it comes to family, I believe the and in the family, age, sex, intelligence does not manner. If a little girl of three identifies her mom, that is her mom, no questions asked. The material I present is just to give another way of looking at things, that is why to get more of a different view on the family needed in family research, listen first to the opposite sex. Top genealogists have noted this in finding their family. Even though a family genealogist of the family is an amateur, that usually is the best genealogist for the family. The reason for the statement ‘You can do DNA’, because if you do it for your family you are most likely to get the highest results.
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Still looking to break-up into Sub-clades unfamiliar with; 3 R1b1a1a2 R-M269,Sub-clades Any knowledge or assistance will be helpful. It was a big help last time. Will be dropping some of the smaller groupings; R-FGC and R-Z hoping can be reclassified. Trying to cut down the R-M269 grouping a bit. If anyone is in R-M269, and match family with a downstream SNP, and there is a grouping for you let me know. A sizable R-M173 Y-haplogroup R1, has been grouped.
Harold Turner
Wish I could afford it!
Mark Elliott
“With a combination of diligence, intuition, peer guidance, genealogical awareness and luck rather than a sophisticated knowledge of biology or mathematics I show that 37 STR markers are often quite sufficient to identify genetic families/surname branches, and one or two SNP Panel tests can be a very cost-effective follow-up to take many testees to near the forefront of this exciting application of citizen science.” James M. Irvine https://ggi2013.blogspot.com/2017/10/james-irvine-speaker-profile.html James M. Irvine; AGREE James and I got hooked on genealogy as a hobby. As an admin. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/irwin/about Noted a lot of people have spent a lot of money on testing, but our total of more than a century of experience comes into agree with what James M. Irvine has stated. About 37 STR markers are needed, with about one or two SNP to be able to get the applicable results for ones own family research, beyond that it is felt you are getting into studies of others. Call it the, ‘lab rat syndrome’.
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https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Scottish-research-mapping-to-US-reference-8.jpg https://forebears.io/surnames Gary Childress, Would go with Leeds, Yorkshire where the Childers/Childress are from. A lot of migration from Yorkshire to the Colonies. Note; ‘Kinder’ https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Kinder is German for ‘Childers’. As you know there is a lot of matching DNA on it, and Yorkshire ‘Leeds’ is of Danish Northumbria, and would carry the I-M253, Y-DNA.
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R1 may be near the ‘green’ on map.
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John McNeel, Though I have a map for myself how my Y-DNA traveled from P312, https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3256662?dpr=2&fit=max&h=488&w=590 need to map it so I can tell how others may have traveled. It seems like that R-U152 may have to travel by ship from Italy to get to Argyll. If anyone feels they belong in an R1b group, let me know because I want to put you in it. Error I can almost guaranteed have been made, and they need to be adjusted and corrected. If anyone else can think of groupings let me know. At a latter date same groups may be combined to their listed upstream category. Know 23andME lists SNP, and those which are R-M269, which do not have a down stream SNP listed, but know you belong in one of the above categories let me know, and I put you into that R1b grouping.
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Trying to reorganize results in the best fashion for family finding. Models may be major names like MacNeill, Campbell, and MacDonald groups. By Island Islay, Jura, Skye, Barra, by SNP I and R sub groupings. Combination. The group has many variations as one can see. Feel that R-M269 is getting to large, needs to be divided some way. Could you suggest which can be incorporated.
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John McNeel
It would be helpful to sort R1b into the major groupings: L21, DF27, U106, and U152 for starts.
Mark Elliott
Though may be considered difference, but may fit the model being considered, it seems like each island contains a SNP grouping. It is noted may be with the above sub groupings, with plans on taking on your suggestion, may be they can if we find blocks be associated with island names instead of surnames.
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Dad did a lot of research trying to show what odd things passed down through our family history by his ancestors was incorrect. Do not recall him showing a thing which was passed down being incorrect. DNA does not begin to supersede what has been handed down as family history, but it can help you find what has not been handed down by your ancestors.
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https://forebears.io/surnames/finch https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3406944?dpr=2&fit=max&h=571&w=590 Hope everyone a Merry Christmas.
Harold Turner
Never met a Finch, but I am branch kin to a few. Spartanburg thing. Merry Christmas
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DNA is a tool of the genealogists, and Y-DNA can be grouped in family groupings. Which the three groups are called, Red, Blue, and Green. The Green group is the wildlife named group of the ‘finch and elk (moose)’, which I am in. The Red and Blue group likely have different origins. An individual suggest another method of naming likely correct for his particular family group. It is found a ‘de Finch’, a name which could me from/owner of land called Finch. One group above could be from the other group above could be owners of an estate called Finch. Red group to people list Sartanburg, SC. Since two list it and it is near the east coast it is likely all of the red group are from there or near there. It is a location of Scot-Irish (Ulster). Most likley from Ireland including the Scots of Ulster Ireland, to the Carolina. Religious preference, at first likely Presbyterian. Blue group shows, Stamford, CT. Stamford of Stamford Bridge near York indicates Anglican. There is migration from Anglia to this region. It is felt that this group likely migrated directly from the Suffolk (southern people of Anglia) to Connecticut, and settled around Stamford. The above is showing a family processing of grouping. One can snatch any image from an FTDNA blog, by right clicking the ‘cut and past’ (seems to work better in Google) the image address; https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3403780?dpr=2&fit=max&h=455&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3406929?dpr=2&fit=max&h=455&w=590
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A true and exact history of the island of Barbados | Project Gutenberg
The Quakers in Barbados – The untold story – BajanThings
FTDNA Greenspan – Elwald
Daniel Elliot (1637–1704) • FamilySearch
Buie of Jura Y-DNA SNP BY13651 uploads – Gorrenberry
THE USE OF THE SCANDINAVIAN PLACE-NAME ELEMENTS -SÆTR AND -ÆRGI IN SKYE AND THE OUTER HEBRIDES: A SITE AND SITUATION STUDY RYAN FOSTER
The Argyll Colony Plus
theargyllcolonyplus.org/
https://theargyllcolonyplus.org/history/
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/490667
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1012569
http://capefearclans.com/JohnMcPherson2.html
http://www.ralstongenealogy.com/number15kintmag.htm#start
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142188 McLean Daniel/Donald McLean b.c. 1760, poss. Jura, Argyll Scotland I-FT56878 Robert Bell in Ulster Surnames, says strong relation to the Mc/Mac ‘Donald’. Forename ‘Donald’ likely related to the Donald (Mc/Mac), check Y-DNA relation. ‘Daniel’ forename for my Fermanagh line likely from McDaniel not the English Daniel.
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https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Holz,1890:H%C3%B6lz,1890:Holzer,1890:H%C3%B6lzer https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Woodard, do you have any Y-DNA matches with surnames; Hölzer or Holz?
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Some entertainment. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Boat-to-America-Scocha.mp4 Before the genealogy. http://www.capefearclans.com/ArgyllColonists.html
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https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/PREVIEW-Getting-Started-in-Genetic-Genealogy.mp4 PREVIEW: Getting Started in Genetic Genealogy May 24, 2016 Please note for; Mitochondrial DNA exact matches only.
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https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Ott https://named.publicprofiler.org/ John Henry Ott b. 15 Jun 1770, PA, d. 8 Sep 1840
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3471473?dpr=2&fit=max&h=385&w=590 Would consider the name Townsley. https://forebears.io/surnames/townsley
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Logan UttHi my name is Scarlet Hiatt. I knew my family came from Scotland but I found documentation that states John Anderson Tow came from Edinburgh Scotland and settled in Davidson NC. I have been in contact with Scotland geneology and they do not show any surname Tow during the 1700-1850. Does anyone know of a different surname that they might have had prior? I found marriage documentation that John Anderson Tow married Prissy Walser in Davidson then they later moved to VA. Eventually the spelling was changed to Towe.Any help would be appreciated.
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Argyll, can ignore, my family is from; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle https://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/ Can be a bit overwhelming. 918911 Johnston Unknown Origin E-M35 Feel that the E-M35 is from the Kirkpatrick, of the Kirkpatrick, near Johnstone, of Annandale. Also were I figure the Irwin and variants picked it up from. https://gorrenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Armstrong-Elliott-Johnston-Fermanagh-surname-distribution-map.jpg Note; Johnston of Ulster, mainly County Fermanagh, second in number after surname Maguire, which county used to be named from. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3464337?dpr=2&fit=max&h=526&w=590 Felt bad since my father’s Loren Spencer Elliott’s birthday is the day before Saint Patrick Day, a very important, a lot more so important in Armerica then that Saint Andrews Day, forgeting the Kirkpatrick, and their E-M35 Y-DNA which has seemed to spread among, Ervin, Irwin, and Irvin. Do you know what a Saint Patrick uses to drive those snakes out of Ireland. He used a crozier. Symbolizing the cane a Navajo grandma ‘shima’, in dealing with young sheep could hook the neck of a lamb with. Clan Crozier, like the Armstrong, Elliott, and Nixon, are a Scottish Middle March Clan. Yes, Saint Patrick is of the Gaelic, people of Scotland and Ireland, and some of them like the US president’s mother are known to genetically have red hair. It is said those dang Vikings maybe with that I-YDNA gave it to them. https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3436456?dpr=2&fit=max&h=357&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3458850?dpr=2&fit=max&h=389&w=590 https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3436413?dpr=2&fit=max&h=625&w=590 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochmaben_Castle just east of Lockerbie. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/kirkpatrick/dna-results https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/calhoun/dna-results https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/humphrey/dna-results Johns(t)on(e) also; https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/johnson/about/background https://named.publicprofiler.org/ Kirkpatrick from region also. Clan Johnston youtube film; https://youtu.be/tgfkXZnFOqA There are a lot of things around the Irving tower at Bonshaw for Irwin and all those other feuding surnames listed with them from around the world would want to
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https://named.publicprofiler.org/ MacCorquodale north of Oban, Scotland Catholics, likely migration to North Carolina region, becoming McCorquodale, Presbyterians c.1740.
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37 markers seems like the best number, and if you want to buy an SNP at $39, just ask, can give a suggestion with reason.
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Though it likely did not happen in the above. but this scenario could happen. There has been migration from Ulster, of names which settle in the Ulster Plantation, since 1890, mainly into what was once West Germany. A model which may apply to someone in the group. Smith is a good example because many a Gaelic name became the name Smith. http://www.therjhuntercollection.com/resources/muster-rolls-c-1630/search-muster-rolls/ https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Smith,1996:Smith https://www.familytreedna.com/public/EnglandGBGroupseijNorman?iframe=yresults Model also can work for the ‘Hill’ Surname of the T-YDNA grouping. Though ‘Hill’ has a strong showing as a surname in Germany in 1890, unlike ‘Smith’. https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1996:Hill,1890:Hill https://named.publicprofiler.org/ ‘Hill’ and ‘Smith’ are found in the Gaelic region of Argyll, would easily be names which the Argyllians if exposed to may Anglicized to because of the simplicity of a single syllable.
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https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3452386?dpr=2&fit=max&h=616&w=590 https://www.rootstech.org/video/you-can-do-dna https://www.yourdnaguide.com/about Want to call then the Mormon Moms, or Moms for short. If you do not know how good they are as genealogists, let along geneticists you where not raised as a Mormon male, like I, but when utilizing the Family History Library, in Salt Lake City, Utah, you do not want to be drilled by a mom, as a family genealogist. https://elwald.com/brigham-this-is-the-place-genealogy-with-dna-applied/ Note; The Mormons because of their beliefs are top rated genealogist. Both Jame M. Irvine, and I are amateurs. The guide team also got hooked on genealogy, and like them because they are independent of corporation, and put the family and it’s history ahead of the genetics, the horse comes before the buggy, genetics-DNA is an additional tool of the genealogists. If information is passed down from the family, take that as the most correct information you can get, and as your base information, then branch of it. This information can start a tree, if it is a GED file, uploaded to a DNA site which finds DNA matches, but make sure this sprig never changes and keep it also as a separate base file, and let it grow. The biggest problem I get into is some so called ‘expert’, would try to change your base file. When it comes to family, I believe the and in the family, age, sex, intelligence does not manner. If a little girl of three identifies her mom, that is her mom, no questions asked. The material I present is just to give another way of looking at things, that is why to get more of a different view on the family needed in family research, listen first to the opposite sex. Top genealogists have noted this in finding their family. Even though a family genealogist of the family is an amateur, that usually is the best genealogist for the family. The reason for the statement ‘You can do DNA’, because if you do it for your family you are most likely to get the highest results.
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Still looking to break-up into Sub-clades unfamiliar with; 3 R1b1a1a2 R-M269,Sub-clades Any knowledge or assistance will be helpful. It was a big help last time. Will be dropping some of the smaller groupings; R-FGC and R-Z hoping can be reclassified. Trying to cut down the R-M269 grouping a bit. If anyone is in R-M269, and match family with a downstream SNP, and there is a grouping for you let me know. A sizable R-M173 Y-haplogroup R1, has been grouped.
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Wish I could afford it!
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“With a combination of diligence, intuition, peer guidance, genealogical awareness and luck rather than a sophisticated knowledge of biology or mathematics I show that 37 STR markers are often quite sufficient to identify genetic families/surname branches, and one or two SNP Panel tests can be a very cost-effective follow-up to take many testees to near the forefront of this exciting application of citizen science.” James M. Irvine https://ggi2013.blogspot.com/2017/10/james-irvine-speaker-profile.html James M. Irvine; AGREE James and I got hooked on genealogy as a hobby. As an admin. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/irwin/about Noted a lot of people have spent a lot of money on testing, but our total of more than a century of experience comes into agree with what James M. Irvine has stated. About 37 STR markers are needed, with about one or two SNP to be able to get the applicable results for ones own family research, beyond that it is felt you are getting into studies of others. Call it the, ‘lab rat syndrome’.
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https://elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Scottish-research-mapping-to-US-reference-8.jpg https://forebears.io/surnames Gary Childress, Would go with Leeds, Yorkshire where the Childers/Childress are from. A lot of migration from Yorkshire to the Colonies. Note; ‘Kinder’ https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Kinder is German for ‘Childers’. As you know there is a lot of matching DNA on it, and Yorkshire ‘Leeds’ is of Danish Northumbria, and would carry the I-M253, Y-DNA.
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R1 may be near the ‘green’ on map.
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John McNeel, Though I have a map for myself how my Y-DNA traveled from P312, https://d3tije9h5o4l4c.cloudfront.net/social-photos/3256662?dpr=2&fit=max&h=488&w=590 need to map it so I can tell how others may have traveled. It seems like that R-U152 may have to travel by ship from Italy to get to Argyll. If anyone feels they belong in an R1b group, let me know because I want to put you in it. Error I can almost guaranteed have been made, and they need to be adjusted and corrected. If anyone else can think of groupings let me know. At a latter date same groups may be combined to their listed upstream category. Know 23andME lists SNP, and those which are R-M269, which do not have a down stream SNP listed, but know you belong in one of the above categories let me know, and I put you into that R1b grouping.
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Trying to reorganize results in the best fashion for family finding. Models may be major names like MacNeill, Campbell, and MacDonald groups. By Island Islay, Jura, Skye, Barra, by SNP I and R sub groupings. Combination. The group has many variations as one can see. Feel that R-M269 is getting to large, needs to be divided some way. Could you suggest which can be incorporated.
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It would be helpful to sort R1b into the major groupings: L21, DF27, U106, and U152 for starts.
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Though may be considered difference, but may fit the model being considered, it seems like each island contains a SNP grouping. It is noted may be with the above sub groupings, with plans on taking on your suggestion, may be they can if we find blocks be associated with island names instead of surnames.
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Dad did a lot of research trying to show what odd things passed down through our family history by his ancestors was incorrect. Do not recall him showing a thing which was passed down being incorrect. DNA does not begin to supersede what has been handed down as family history, but it can help you find what has not been handed down by your ancestors.
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