St. Andrews (Andreas), Proto-Germanic Linguistic Evolution

How family members are being successful at family history;

THE FAMILY KNOWS BEST.
LISTEN TO OTHERS, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OF THE OPPISTE SEX, WHEN IT COMES TO FAMILY.
WHEN FINDING FAMILY DO NOT GET RID OF THE IN-LAWS EVEN IF YOU WANT TO.
FAMILIES FIGHT, THOUGH DISAGREEMENT, BOTH POSITIONS-ANSWERS ARE LIKELY CORRECT.
IF THE FAMILY’S HISTORY IS DONE PROPERLY, ONE DO NOT GET TO CHOOSE THEIR RELATIVES THEY AR BORN WITH THEM.

THE FAMILY KNOWS BEST. Anything which is presented as pasted down as family history by a member of the family is accepted as being correct. If someone not of the family line expresses it being incorrect, they may be a historian, but not a family historian.

LISTEN TO OTHERS, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OF THE OPPISTE SEX, WHEN IT COMES TO FAMILY.
People of the opposite sex see things differently and will offer a different perspective when seeking information about family.

WHEN FINDING FAMILY DO NOT GET RID OF THE IN-LAWS EVEN IF YOU WANT TO. If there are relatives that you do not want to be related to, put them in because they may be linked to relatives you want to be related to.

FAMILIES FIGHT, THOUGH DISAGREEMENT, BOTH POSITIONS-ANSWERS ARE LIKELY CORRECT. Any information you may receive is helpful, and is likely as correct as ones own.

IF THE FAMILY’S HISTORY IS DONE PROPERLY, ONE DO NOT GET TO CHOOSE THEIR RELATIVES THEY AR BORN WITH THEM. (self explanatory).

مدرسة الكويكرز الفلسطينية التي صمدت 150 عامًا من الحرب والاحتلال – كويكر سبيك

تأسست مدرسة أصدقاء رام الله عام ١٨٦٩ على يد اثنين من الأصدقاء من نيو إنجلاند، حين كانت فلسطين لا تزال تحت الحكم العثماني، وتوسعت لاحقًا لتضم حرمين جامعيين في مدينتي رام الله والبيرة المتجاورتين. وقد أجرت QuakerSpeak مؤخرًا مقابلات عبر تطبيق زووم مع رانيا معايه، مديرة المدرسة، وعمر تسديل، أمين مجلس أمنائها.

صمدت المدرسة لعقود من العنف خلال الاحتلال الإسرائيلي للضفة الغربية، بل وتعرضت لهجمات في بعض الأحيان، لكنها ما زالت مزدهرة. يقول عمر: “عندما يبدو الأمل معدومًا، نسعى جاهدين لتوفير ملاذ آمن يشعر فيه الناس بالترحيب والحرية، بينما هم خارج أسوار المدرسة ليسوا أحرارًا على الإطلاق”.

 

Daniel Elliot, Salem by Loren S. Elliott

Barton DNA Polish origins ?

Family Tree DNA social photos 3719534 (1181×912)

 


American Friends Service Committee – Speed read – NobelPrize.org

Quaker organizations discern genocide is occurring in Gaza and urge courageous action | American Friends Service Committee

 

Family Tree DNA social photos 3730883 (1180×884)

Family Tree DNA social photos 3712452 (1180×598)

Поскольку у меня нет доступа к набору FTDNA №101829, пожалуйста, используйте набор YSEQ №4069, чтобы найти для меня семейного историка Марка Стефан Эллиотта.

 

 

Family Tree DNA social photos 3730883 (1180×884)

Family Tree DNA social photos 3712452 (1180×598)

Поскольку у меня нет доступа к набору FTDNA №101829, пожалуйста, используйте набор YSEQ №4069, чтобы найти для меня семейного историка Марка Стефан Эллиотта.

 

Brigham ‘This is the Place’ genealogy with DNA applied

Brigham ‘This is the Place’ genealogy with DNA applied

 

Chronicles of the Armstrongs; : Armstrong, James Lewis : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The History of Liddesdale, Eskdale, Ewesdale, Wauchopedale and the …Robert Bruce Armstrong – Google Books

 

 

 

On Will of Robt Elliot and family, New Castle, Kittery, Maine b. 1643 by MSE 5/23/2012

 

Fathers-Father-4-Robert-Elliot-and-Colonial-Maine-Royalists.pdf MSE

Chasing-my-Y-DNA-part-28.pdf MSE

 

Difficult to Transcribe plus Confusion and a Result with Clarification-1.pdf  MSE-7-19-2012

 

 

Graham Grantham Ancient Roman J-M267 DNA – Gorrenberry

 

 

 

File:Sasine deed 1484 for Robert Elwald (Elliot), Redheugh, Larriston, Hartsgarth.jpg – Wikipedia

Armetage-Hermitage-Armestrang-Armstrong-Castle-Bothwell.jpg (1030×960)

 

Brigham ‘This is the Place’ genealogy with DNA applied

 

 

 

FTDNAsocial-photos-3719534.jpg (1181×912)



 

Peace on the Scottish Border

 


Fathers-Father-4-Robert-Elliot-and-Colonial-Maine-Royalists.pdf MSE

Chasing-my-Y-DNA-part-57.pdf MSE 3-27-2013

 


 


A true and exact history of the island of Barbados | Project Gutenberg

A true & exact history of the island of Barbados : illustrated with a mapp of the island, as also the principall trees and plants there, set forth in their due proportions and shapes, drawne out by their severall and respective scales : together with the ingenio that makes the sugar, with the plots of the severall houses, roomes, and other places, that are used in the whole processe of sugar-making … : all cut in copper : Ligon, Richard : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

 

 


 

Scottish Poetry Selection – Wha Daur Meddle Wi’ Me?

The royal coat of arms in Scotland has the Latin motto “Nemo me impune lacessit“. The English translation of this is “Nobody interferes with me with impunity” and this is often defiantly expressed in broad Scots as “Wha daur meddle wi’ me?” which is the title of this anonymous poem. But on this occasion it is being aggressively repeated by a member of the Elliot family, one of the Border families who not only fought their neighbours but were part of the first line of defence against marauding English invaders – and could sometimes defy the Scottish monarch as well!

 

File:Sasine deed 1484 for Robert Elwald (Elliot), Redheugh, Larriston, Hartsgarth.jpg – Wikipedia

The Annals of a Border Club (the Jedforest): And Biographical Notices of the … – George Tancred – Google Books

File:Crozier and Elliot in Upper Liddesdale Blaeu 1654 map.jpeg – Wikipedia

 

Armstrong Fairbairn

Chronicles of the Armstrongs; : Armstrong, James Lewis : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The History of Liddesdale, Eskdale, Ewesdale, Wauchopedale and the … – Robert Bruce ArmstrongGoogle Books

 

https://www.familytreedna.com/social-photos/3719534

 


 





 



 

Fyre and Sword – Music and Poetry


 

Tullykelter-to-America 3/1/2012 Mark Elliott PDF

 

Chronicles of the Armstrongs; : Armstrong, James Lewis : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The History of Liddesdale, Eskdale, Ewesdale, Wauchopedale and the … – Robert Bruce Armstrong – Google Books

 

Chronicles of the Armstrongs; : Armstrong, James Lewis : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The History of Liddesdale, Eskdale, Ewesdale, Wauchopedale and the … – Robert Bruce Armstrong – Google Books

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peace on the Scottish Border

 

Redheugh Elwald to Larriston Ellot of the Elliot

 

 

 


 



 

 

 

BYU Brigham DNA

Die Riding Clans in Ulster von Robert Bell PDF

 


 

 

File:Sasine deed 1484 for Robert Elwald (Elliot), Redheugh, Larriston, Hartsgarth.jpg – Wikipedia

 

 

Elwald-de-Armstrong PDF

 

Chronicles of the Armstrongs; : Armstrong, James Lewis : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The History of Liddesdale, Eskdale, Ewesdale, Wauchopedale and the … – Robert Bruce ArmstrongGoogle Books

 

 




 

 

 

BRIGHAM This is the Place; DNA

 


 

 

Peace on the Scottish Border


 

 

 

 

 

Lyrics e-chords

Peace On The Border 

After the riding we dispersed We drifted home in twos and threes Through cold and rain we spat and cursed This ancient war of families

 

 

 

 

 

 

In Barbados Anglican-Royalist Scot POW from the English Civil War 1650 were indentured to the Barbados Plantation, this a precursor to the African slaves.

 

В этот бесценный момент во всей истории человечества все люди на этой Земле поистине едины – едины в своей гордости за то, что вы сделали, и едины в своих молитвах о вашем благополучном возвращении на Землю.

АСТРОНАВТ АРМСТРОНГ. Спасибо, господин Президент.

 

FTDNA Greenspan – Elwald

Daniel Elliot (1637–1704) • FamilySearch

 

 

New an important find (9/18-19/2018 MSE)

https://nvk.entless.org/mapbox/1890:%20himmelreich,1890:hagen

Have a Anders Hellström, HaLevi, to thank for above. 9/18/2018.

https://nvk.entless.org/mapbox/1890:anders

 

Anderson, Andersson R-U106-S12025

Daniel Elliot Cluster is being found  for those in the cluster as S12025  (received from RP Elliott).

Dan-Cluster-DNA-U106-S12025

Note name; Lindemann.

R-U106 Daniel cluster chart

Have an R-L193 match which would indicate adoption.  Two Andrew of Scotland are listed. In 1608, when Andrew of Scotland was banish from the kingdoms of Scotland and English, he was going by his alias/nickname for Andrew that of Dan, which in Ulster-Northern Ireland it became a popular Irish name that of Daniel.

There are two Anderson/Andersson, listed among the S12025 Daniel Elliot cluster.

Surname, via forename, by adding “s”&”son”

Daniel name is felt to have been derived from Andrew where Dan is an alias for Andrew on the Scottish Borders, and borderers, were felt to be Catholic when arriving in the county of Fermanagh.

http://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/sheep-stealers-from-the-north-of-england-the-riding-clans-in-ulster-by-robert-bell/

Then the county of Fermanagh became Anglican/Episcopalian. With Daniel of Tullykelter, of Anglican Archbishop Malcolm Hamilton land, it is felt that the border Scot,  Dan Ellot became the Ulster Irish which a Dublin spelling Daniel Elliot.

Robert-William-John-Elwald-of-Redheugh

note; no Armstrong, but Grame (Graham), and Forstar (Forster/Forester), with towers on English side of Liddel Water, and Armstrong have towers on Scottish side, in 1576 Saxton map.

When Robert Elwald (Ellot) received  lands of Redheugh, Lariston, Hartsgarth and others;

Ninian, Robert, William, John, and Andrew, are listed with the witnesses to the sasine/deed.

Note; George Forstar is also listed as a witness; above the name has a German base and became Forester in England

Monumental Lind Trees in Germany;

monumental-common-lime-lind-linde-tree-1

Forster Linde; a lind tree of the forest.

Lind;

Lind Old Norse & German

Lindemann distribution

Lind distribution Linde distributionLinden distribution

 

 

Lindenwald, meaning; linde tree forest, is found in Germany, in the region in which most Lindemann meaning; linde person live;

Der-Lindenwald-1

 

Andrew-Andreas;

The name Andrew appears as a witness of Andrew Elwald, when Robert receives lands of Redheugh, Lariston, Hartsgarth and others.

It is felt the the name came from a John Elwald, rector Saint Andrews University (Universitatis Sancti Andreæ (Latin), Sankt/San Andreas  German/Spanish) in 1418, and became rector of Kirkandrews (church of St Andrews) of the Diocese of Whitethorne in 1423.  So Andrew was an important name to the family line since these times.

St Andrews Cross Flag

Andreas of Germany, for Andrew and Anderson variants as found in Scandinavian, and Scotland, is one of the seeds.

Andreas distribution;

Proto-Germanic Andreas surname expansion

Low-German-Low-Saxon-Dialects

of the Proto-Germanic language which spreads north.

Ewald Elwald distribution;

German-Ewald-and-Robert-Elwald-crest-comparisons.

Arms are similar. Elwald has a stag’s head at crest.

Proto-Germanic-Andreas-surname-expansionEwald-Elwald-U106-surname-distributions-1

Andrew is an Elwald name, and if one compares surname distribution of Andreas and Ewald, one should be able to see the similarities.

St. Andrew, was a disciple of the great St. John the Baptist, and the patron saint of Russia, and Scotland where the cross made by diagonals on the Scottish flag is referred to as Saint Andrew’s Cross.

The names of other forms in the Scandinavian nations of  Anderson; son of Andrew and Johnson; the son of John, follow the Scandinavian patronymic; surnames after the fathers as opposed to Norman surnames after the estate/barony, form of naming.

Andrew an important family name;

The name Andrew through it’s Scottish border alias Dande, not Andy became the Ulster Irish and American Plantation name of Daniel.  This is the name presently used for the Y-DNA R-U106-S12025; Daniel Cluster.

Dande or Dand for Andrew, Hob, Hab or Habbie for Robert

John Elwald, was of a church in the diocese of St Andrew, rector of St Andrew 1418, Canon of Glasgow, Selkirk regent, then rector of the church of St Andrew, referred to as Kirkandrews (meaning church of St Andrews) diocese of St. Ninian that of Whitethorn 1423, in the Debatable Lands near Canonbie.

John Elwalde rector

 

Andrew became the alias/nickname Dan, and then in Ulster, Northern Ireland became Daniel, Daniel Elliot of Tullykelter, Fermanagh, Ulster, Ireland. It should be noted that family before Union being of the border married English women, and being of the border in Ireland, likely married Irish women.

Kind of accuse the Pope Benedict XVI who came to Scotland, with the Scots flying the flag with St Andrews Cross, on St Ninian Fiesta Day, as being Armstrong with the given tartan, or maybe used green in the tartan not forgetting the Irish;

St.-Ninian-Tartan

220px-Drawing_of_Armstrongtartan

200px-St.Ninian.dedications

St Ninian dedication map Wiki

Bec Norfolk-Rimington-W Riding Y-Gorrenberry N Northumbria

It should be noted, that at the time when St. Ninian of Whitethorn (ca 400 AD), converted the Picts to Christianity, surnames where not used. Armstrong  surname which appeared in 1376 (RB Armstrong’s History of Liddesdale..), was Alexander Armystrand (not likely the first if at the time of de Solis). AAII is likely the second Alexandir Armystrand, of the IHS (christian burial) Milnholm Cross.

It is felt evolution of the name from Armystrand (army strand along Liddel (Little) Water), to 1541 Armistrang (strongest army on border), to a known name of Armstrong. Armstrong’s have a number of stories, which all or some have, in  after the Union when they were no longer the “strong army”, influenced the name Armistrang to become Armstrong. The people which became Armstrong and Liddel (Little) lived, in a border region along the Liddel Water where St Ninian converted the Picts to Christainity. In this region many Pict Y-DNA males, adopted the surname which evolved into today’s Armstrong.

WESTMORLANDIAE_et_Cumberlandiae_Comitatum_towers_along_Liddel-1

Gilnockie was destroyed by English and rebuilt, and may not have been considered an active tower in 1576 when map was made.

In 1547, on can see the Armstrong, are more than four times the Ellwood (Ellot), and more than nine times the Nixon, in number. They in 1547 were truly the army which is the strongest, with peel towers stranded along the Scottish banks of the Liddel Water.

Ellwoodes-Elwald-Ellot-Elliot-Liddesdale-1547

1576; Armstrong, an army strand on the Scottish side of the Liddel Water. The Grahams of Graham, now Grantham, and Forstar (Forester) are on the English side of the Liddel Water.

John is the number one forename of the Elliot, Elliott, Armstrong and Fairbairn families;

Elliot-Elliott-Armstrong-and-Fairbairn

Sweden;

Johansson Johnson Andersson Anderson Swedish surnames

From above; Lindemann, means person of the linde tree;

So; Lindberg means a mountain (hill/mound) of linde tree.

Norway;

Johansen Johnson Andersen Anderson Norwegian surnames

Andersen; Norway & Denmark

Andersen surname distribution

Denmark;

Andersen Anderson Johansen Johnson Danish surnames

One can see the importance of Anderson as a surname in the Scandinavian nations especially Sweden.

Andersson of Sweden surname distribution;

stats for Andersson

One can see the top cities are not in Sweden, but Denmark, Norway, and Hamburg Germany.

Andersson surname distribution

Andre is French and Sweden;

(along Proto-Germanic lines of Andreas distribution in Germany)

Anderson of UK surname distribution;

Stats for Anderson

One can see the top cities are not in Sweden, but Scotland, northern England, and Ireland, but not southern England.

Anderson surname distribution

It is felt the Anderson name is Scandinavian, then border Scots, on to Northern/Ulster Ireland, then onward.

Mark S. Elliott     7/30/2015-2/19/2016

Johansen Norway & Denmark;

Johansen distribution Denmark & Norway

Johansson Sweden;

Johnansson distribution Sweden

Proto-Germanic Linguistic Migration Paths;

Andreas (Germany),  to Andersen (Denmark to Norway), to Anderson (Scotland).

John (Germany), to Johnson (England), to Johnston(e) (Scotland).

John (Germany), to Johnasen (Denmark to Norway).

 

John (German), Johnson (English) and Johnston & Johnstone (Scottish);

1 John (Germany, Wales);

Elliot-Elliott-Armstrong-and-Fairbairn

Remember; John is the number one forename of the Elliot, Elliott, Armstrong and Fairbairn.

John distribution

2. Johnson (English);

Johnson distribution

3. Johnston(e) (Scottish);

Johnston distribution Johnstone distribution

MSE 2/27/2016

Where the Germanic language had it’s beginning, along with the language incubated many surnames, which migrated an evolved with the Germanic language, with influences from other languages. 2/8/2017 MSE

United Kingdom Armstrong please pass link to an Elliot;

What’s an Elliott of Clan Elliot?

Proto-Germanic R-U106 haplogroup DNA Elwald-Elliot

Proto-Germanische R-U106 Haplogroup DNA Elwald-Elliot

POBI

People of the British Isles

https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/

https://isogg.org/wiki/People_of_the_British_Isles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_of_the_British_Isles

Garrett Hellenthal – The Genetic History of the United Kingdom: the POBI project

https://www.google.com/maps/place/53940+Hellenthal,+Germany/@50.4184034,6.3085775,11z

http://forebears.io/surnames/Hellenthal

4/5/2018 MSE

 

 

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