Armstrong Fairbairn Elliot Y-DNA link

‘Sheep stealers from the north of England’: the Riding Clans in Ulster by Robert Bell

Kuta – nazwiska-polskie.pl

Chronicles of the Armstrongs Ed By James L. Armstrong M.D. 1902 p.77 Elwald

 

Sketch of Dand Ellot of Scotland to Daniel Elliot of Ulster (Dand to Daniel – elwald.com)  PDF MSE 10/25/2010

10/25/2010 Bob’s last birthday did not make it to Christmas.

Robert Elliott Obituary, Urbandale, IA :: Iles Funeral Homes

 

When a surname changes over the centures how should it be recorded? – WikiTree G2G  by anonymous 

Bec; An early resident of Bec was Alanus Elfwold (1248).[5] Humanistiska vetenskaps-samfundet; Lund, Louise Vinge C.W.K. Gleerup. vol. 72-74 p. 22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_Hall

Rimington, History
The village was listed in the Domesday Book as “Renistone”. The name Boulton (Bolton) is listed in land deeds of 1302,[3] and Robert Elwald son of Alan listed 1304.[4] Calendar of Close Rolls, Vol 1302-7 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimington

Kirtland, OH Daniel-David NY line;

EDF, I know you do not need a land’s person a Scottish Ministry Report will do, because the English Wind Farm Industry the Scottish Ministry has already bought them  off so when it goes into result like the Windy Edge Wind Farm which Teviot Wind Farm is a part of, the paid off repealed decision  will go to the English which purchase the electricity of the Scottish  grid. The Cromwellian Parliamentary Tory government is from  an Irish genocidal government anyway, and can not expect any better form such government but to dictate Scottish Wind Farm policy because England want energy without having wind farms themselves.

 

 

 

Between Dod Hill, and Hermitage Castle is Brailee Burn.

 

 

The Aug 4, 1682 Boston deed: Daniel Elliot Sr, father of Daniel Elliot Jr of the Salem Testimony, was a document discovered by Melanie Hollett of the Daniel Elliot group.

Daniel Elliot 1637-1704 Tullykelter, Co. Fermanagh, Ireland to Boston, MA, familysearch.org

Chronicles of the Armstrongs; : Armstrong, James Lewis : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Daniel Elliot (1637–1704) • FamilySearch

Crosser-Crozier 1587 Middlemarch

 

A Hawick Word Book by Douglas Scott PDF

Tullykelter-to-America

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 Brigham DNA Gorrenberry google images

THE ANNALS OF A BORDER CLUB: GEORGE TANCRED 1899 P.149

 

 

 

Kuta R-FT41761 Big-Y, FTDNA Polish, seemed to get stopped at this brick wall by SNPs in Ukraine, also, but as you can see a Bennett Greenspan seemed to get into the Ukraine. One would think he would help others to break through this ‘brick wall’. Is it the sampling of the Ukrainians causing the difficulties?
Mark Elliott
September 8 @ 9:12am

 

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Notes;

More of line.

I. Andrew (Dand) Ellot of Liddesdale accused in the slaughter of Hugh Douglas, referred to as Cowie of Gorrenberry, because it was a story used when he came down from Baillie in Teviodale, to Gorrenberry east of the Hermitage Castle in Liddesdale, to visit his second son Robert Ellot from Hob Elwode, adopt syster’s son of Clement Croser, known as Clementis Hob, and helped the family, the Gorrenberry family make up a Cowie story, so they could explain the sounds made by him working during the night in which he became known as The Cowie of Gorrenberry. It is felt he lived in Teviotdale with Gilbert, referred to Dandis Gib, which was Gilbert of the Goldern Garties, which became of the Gilbert of Stobs line.

Andrew (Dand) has sons Andrew and Robert;
II. Andrew (Dand the Cow) Ellot, Burgess of Selkirk.
Robert (Clementis Hob, a Hob taking in by mother’s brother Clement Crosar) living with Archibald (Archie Keen) Ellot, younger brother to Gavin the Clark (Clerk).

Robert has sons, Robert and Andrew.
III. Robert Baillie to Sir John Hamilton of Armagh, his family likely died in the Irish Revolt of 1642, though he had a son Robert which surveyed land.
Andrew (Dand) Ellot of Liddesdale became Daniel Elliott of Somerville married to a Hamilton, of Tullykelter Castle.

Daniel Elliott of Tullykelter has sons;
IV. William with son William,
Gavin Gawon
Robert
Mungo
Marke

Robert has sons;
V. Robert of now Portsmonth, Maine.
Daniel Elliot of Otter Neck (Saxonville-north Framingham) then Boston, who has son is Daniel Elliot of the Salem Testimony.

 

From Google search; “Daniel Elliot of Scotland”  10/8/2017

Sketch of Dand Elliot of Scotland to Daniel Elliot of Ulster – Elwald
www.elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Dand-to-Daniel.pdf
Sketch of Dand Elliot of Scotland to Daniel Elliot of Ulster. Connecting the dots is difficult to do, and there will be some interpolation to put the family through.

Daniel Ellot-Elliot Salem, Boston, Scotland 6/18/2015 – Gorrenberry
https://gorrenberry.com/daniel-elliot-boston-scotland-3222015/
Mar 23, 2015 – Daniel Elliot innkeeper of Boston 1704;. (noted; in The History of Danvers, there is a Daniel Elliot of the Danver’s Militia which died in 1690, this …

Daniel Elliott 1610 Ulster likely Catholic then Anglican – Gorrenberry
https://gorrenberry.com/daniel-elliott-1610-ulster-likely-catholic-then-aglican/Jul 27, 2015 – Name Daniel in Ulster evolved from an alias of the Scottish border name, Andrew for St Andrew, which had an alias of Dan; became the Irish …

Alexander Gordon, Individual Contract with Master John Cloise …
http://scottishprisonersofwar.com/alexander-gordon-individual-contract-with-master-john-cl…
Dec 4, 2014 – DANIEL GORDON, was born at Exeter, Rockingham, New ….. in the late English wars with Scotland, and with many more prisoners brought into ….. The Y-DNA of our Daniel Elliot line is unusual among Elliots making up only …

Tullykelter Castle – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullykelter_Castle
Tullykelter Castle is a castle located in Northern Ireland. In 1616 Archbishop Malcolm Hamilton … James Somerville is of Cambusnethan in Ayrshire, Scotland. … James and Elizabeth took the Oath of Supremacy, but a lessee Daniel Elliot who …

10/8/2017 MSE

 

 

Tentative family tree structure.

Dand (alias for Andrew) had sons;

Andrew (Dan the Cowie) Burgess of Selkirk.

Clementis Hobs (Clement Crosar-Crozier’s living on Gledstane land of Stobs sister’s son Robert Ellott)

Clementis Hobs had sons;

Robert Ellot Bailee to Sir John Hamilton of Armagh, likely died in Irish Rebellion of 1641.

Andrew Ellot alias Dand became Daniel Ell(i)ott of Tullykelter on James Somerville land, in 1610 Tyrone muster, son James Somerville, estate owner of Tullykelter of Monea Castle muster is in 1630, along with a Robert Ellot, son of Daniel Ell(i)ot, it is this Robert Ellot which is felt to name his first son Robert of Maine-Portmouth, NH, after himself, and his second son Daniel after his father, and normal progression in naming. Robert indentured to the Cutt family of NH-ME, building houses. Daniel indentured to the Stone family of Cambridge.

 

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John Boulton Dungannon Lord Viscount Powerscourt Tyrone c1630 Muster Rolls (therjhuntercollection.com)

November | 2022 | DNAeXplained – Genetic Genealogy (dna-explained.com) Gisburn

 

 

Use to using a different format, but the above is and example of lands, including an insert-map showing Braidlee, from Anglo-Saxon Broadlee, meaning a valley broad on the leeward side. Wolflee also Anglo-Saxon, meaning the valley of the wolf. Yes, there were wolfs in the region. They introduced them around here and the Navajo grandmas shoot them for going after their sheep. Put chief Margaret Eliott raised in Stobs, but of Redheugh, in the same category if Scotland decides to reintroduce wolfs. Her husband seems to have a Polish wolfish type surname.

Though I may observe him, do not want to make any distinctive moves. Past British Army MI6 you know, but on the same family side.

May have bumped elbows on an Armstrong in the Aberdeenshire region. Finding that Eliott-Elliot may have land connection with Douglas-In-graham in region. Those Graham they are English an seem to not want to claim Armstrong-Elliot as family. Maybe the Nixon and Crozier seem to have English connections they find more acceptable.

Kind of like staying in the Forest with the Fosters, they are English and seem to be not offended to be related to Armstrong and Elliot, from the English side like those Grahams. It is the Hunter and wolf, for they are predators of the elk-moose, I must watch out for.

The Crozier seem to be Saxon along with the Thorleehope (valley of Thor, god of lightning Thunder Valley). A couple of Crozier seem to match their Y-DNA and are not R-L193. It seem like if you are not R-L192 and are R-U106, Anglo-Saxon they like to silence and exterminate you.  Mark Stephen Elliott

 

Daniel as a forename is not popular in Scotland. Many great in accordance with Douglas Scott of BC, Canada, Dand Ellot was banished from both Kingdoms in 1607, then shows up as Daniel Elliott, in Tullykelter, Co. Fermanagh, Ireland, as part of the Somerville Estate in-law to the Monea Hamilton. Names Somerville, and Ellott show up in 1610 Tyrone Muster, and a generation later in the Co. Fermanagh, Muster. James Somerville shows up in bother musters. 1610 James Somerville had son 1630 Somerville. Scots alias nickname for Andrew is Dand, Irish English it becomes Daniel from surname of Daniel-M’Daniel it may be obtained. Ellot family of Tullykelter were Anglican but nomally Catholic, from forenames show this, even the name in 1610 Ulster Muster of Co. Fermanagh, Marke Ellot shows this. Before 1650 the Scots used Ellot not Elliot with the Norman ‘i’. Daniel Elliott name in 1692 Salem Trials was spelled Elot, the ‘i’ was added likely because of a John Eliot (Eliot Hall Harvard) which came over on the Mayflower. Had a relative to a George Soul who’s ancestor those Armstrong may have melted in lead at Ninestanerig, 9 stone ridge. Did not seem to care much for this Soulis either. The Douglas and Armstrong seem to like, and this Douglas Scott who is from BC, Canada is active with the Hoik-Hawick Archaeological Society, and has this younger brother who is active also, and sings Scottish Ballads with this group called Scocha (Scott-Chapman), do not know being an elk-moose if I care for his middle name of Hunter, though I think he also is weary of the hunter.

 

 

 

“The introduction of an ‘i’ into the name ‘Ellot’ was, without doubt, unfortunate. It immediately confused th Clan with the weL-known English Norman family of St. Germains, settled in the West County of Wales and in no way related, whose name was derived from ‘Alyot’. And it confused still further the already indeterminate origin of those whose name was spelt with tow ‘Ls” and two ‘Ts’.”

28th chief Sir Arthur Eliott of Stobs, father of present 29th chief Margaret Eliott of Redheugh.

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › File:Sasine_deed_148…
redheugh sasine from en.wikipedia.org
This has landholders Ker, Scot, Elwald, Gladstanis, which helped with ownership of the land Redheugh, Larriston, Hartsgarth, and others to be transfer to Robert …

 

Our Elliot Ancestors of New England by Loren Spencer Elliott

Chronicles of the Armstrongs; by Armstrong, James Lewis

Genealogy of the Daniel Elliot family

by Marshall E. Lignian

Publication:
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1973
on 1 microfilm reel ; 35 mm.

Genealogy of the Daniel Elliot family Marshall E. Lignian to jpg

 

Our Elliot Ancestors of New England by Loren Spencer Elliott

Chronicles of the Armstrongs; by Armstrong, James Lewis

Genealogy of the Daniel Elliot family

by Marshall E. Lignian

Publication:
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1973
on 1 microfilm reel ; 35 mm.

Genealogy of the Daniel Elliot family Marshall E. Lignian to jpg

The Stars and Stripes of Betsy Ross is my flag. The Union-Jack, great granddad Rowell, with help from Cousin George got rid of it in 1776. Though it can be said, “Any Christians? No, we are Armstrong and Elliot”. Border Pacification is another name for border surname genocide of Armstrong, and along with them as with Gilnockie, Elliot, and exile to Co Maguire-Fermanagh, Ireland, now on the EU-UK border. It is the Stars & Stripes not the Union-Jack.

Good to have the Armstrong, Elliott, Nixon, and Crozier family which supported Marie Stuart, Queen of Scots, and recognized as Middle March Scotland in 1587 back together again. It feels like the pitch-in parts are all there. No, leaders because our leaders get hung like Gilnockie by monarchs, just pitch-in in your own way you will be a part of the summation making a greater family whole. Those which try to lead, silence and call people liars are not family.

Ancestral cousins intermarried the Irish, on both sides of the EU-UK (Union-Jack) border, which was put in because of a Cromwellian Parliamental Tory Brexit vote.

Mark Elliott
39 minutes ago
Family Tree DNA Unsubscribe Sat, Jul 27, 2:24 AM (2 days ago) to me You have been removed from project Armstrong. The group administrator for this project has decided to remove you giving the following reason: Sorry but we only accept members who are of Armstrong stock, or who have strong Armstrong DNA links. Historical geographical links won’t suffice. Our project would be overwhelmed if we allowed non-Armstrongs etc to join. Please join the Elliot(t) project where I’m sure you would be welcomed. Many thanks, Admin team Thank you for testing at Family Tree DNA, Family Tree DNA http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com “History Unearthed Daily” This message contains informational content. Please do not reply to this message. Replies to this message will not be read.
Mark Elliott
36 minutes ago
Because they kicked Rich Rucker off site and he has an extremely strong Armstrong Y-DNA link, the site is no longer relevant to genealogical research. “do not kick-out the in-laws”, though you may want to. When one censors out data, then the results are to the extreme biased. Though the Elliott-Elwald, the ‘elk of the forest’, are linked to the I-M253 (DNA admix) Fairbairn ‘fair bear’, he is right I am not linked to the Alexandir Armystrand of 1376, the; ‘army strand’ Scottish side of the Liddel Water which marked the border. Armestrang ‘army strong’ of Scotland, my family soldiered THE HERMITAGE CASTLE for Catholic Queen Marie Stuart (French), the Armstrong where then the ARMY STRONG of the Kingdom of Scotland.
“Please join the Elliot(t) project where I’m sure you would be welcomed. Many thanks, Admin team”; been kicked off it also, and I’m an Elliott, worked as a mine engineer, retired math, science, computer instructor at the university, and secondary level. Second generation genealogist, after my father Loren Spencer Elliott, which has been doing genealogy on my own family line for over a half century. How relevant does that make FTDNA Y-DNA site relevant to genealogical research? Have background in southwest US archaeology, having been part of a organization called Plateau Sciences of Gallup, New Mexico, USA, and knowledge of indigenous Navajo and Zuni Pueblo languages, which anthropological knowledge of The Church of Latter Day Saints, having lived in Utah, and the people of the southwest United States, along with English as a Second Language, teaching experience. Do not qualify to be on FTDNA blogs with the above experience, what does it say about these blogs?

Muirhall Hermitage Castle wind farm

Proto-Germanic DNA

Above gives more information on Northern German region, link. Added 4/28/2016

clancrozier.com

Armstrong, KEEP ON RIDING

Because the United Kingdom Armstrong seek and share knowledge in the region of genealogy, this PDF is written for the Armstrong and their border allies which like to pitch-in to help the Armstrong on their ride out;

Armstrong KEEP ON RIDING

12-27-2015

 

Note;

Though Infinis Windy Edge Wind Farm near Hermitage Castle was voted against by the Scottish Borders Council

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-33310305

it now is in appeal;

Appeal-to-SBC-of-Infinis-Windy-Edge

Response, I am receiving trying to include;

Sasine_deed_1484_for_Robert_Elwald_(Elliot),_Redheugh,_Larriston,_Hartsgarth

History wiki clan elliot

Google Book link to Robert of Redheugh sasine/deed

Wikipedia Clan Crozier is up for deletion;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Crozier

Response from the one above;

The Clan Eliott Wikipedia has been high jacked it does not contained history of  THE NAME, as expressed by the chief’s father and grandmother;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Eliott

Arthur-Eliott-i-insertion1

Basic to THE NAME on in the History of The Elliot Clan Society;

http://www.elliotclan.com/history/the-name/

Hopefully people will realize the Clan Crozier does not need to remain a vanquished clan and should be Unvanquished as their allied clan the Armstrong are and will speak up for them.

What I was trying to say which included that which has been censored;

Clan Elliot Origins

Please share.

On Wiki Clan Elliot website  12/9&19/2015

It is even basic to the German Wikipedia Clan Elliot website;

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Elliot

Nach der Legende kommt das Extra-“t” in Elliott von der Bekehrung der Elliotts zum https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Elliot
Christentum und soll ein Kreuz symbolisieren. Die unterschiedliche Schreibweise wird in diesem Reim verdeutlicht:

The double L and single T
Descent from Minto and Wolflee,
The double T and single L
Mark the old race in Stobs that dwell.
The single L and single T
The Eliots of St Germains be,
But double T and double L,
Who they are nobody can tell.
Robert Bell dichtete in “The Book of Scots-Irish Family Names” hinzu: “For double L and double T, the Scots should look across the sea!”

By not having this saying which identifies all Eliot, Eliott, Elliot, and Elliott the web page has been high jacked.

Mark Elliott    12/20/2015

Following link show how the bear, elk (moose), and wolf may be represented in the Armstrong Fairy Bear stories;
https://gorrenberry.com/bear-fairbairn-elk-elwald-wolf-loumann-armstrong/

Shows Alan Elfwald ca 1250 the father of Robert Elwald ca 1290 of;

Bec, Anglia

DNA U106, Proto-Germanic Migration.

Proto Germanic R-U106 Elwald Elliot Migration

Armstrong Fairbairn I-M253 Y-DNA

Norman Barony Naming Convention Correlating Y-DNA Used to Find Pre-Surname Northumbria-East Anglia Entry Location.

A barony naming convention would explain why the Normans called it the Battle of Hastings instead of naming it for the battlefield. The battle took place in the Rape (barony) of Hastings on land that was subject to Hastings’ jurisdiction. The Saxons called it the Battle of Senlac according to Orderic Vitalis, after the local name of the place. Senlac means “sandy loch” and would fit the wide, sandy Brede Valley flood plain through which the estuarine Brede River meandered.

http://carmenandconquest.blogspot.com/2013/05/a-clerical-data-standard-suggested-by.html

Wm de Aliot is where the Eliot name is of southern most England; St German/Port Eliot is an example of this convention.

In 123o there are Elwold in Rye/Rya, near where The Battle of Hastings took place.

Ingewerd-Elwold-Elwald-of-Rye

John-Elwold-Elwald-of-Rya-Rye

 

Location of Medieval Rye-Rya;

Location of Medieval Rye-Rya

Number of Elliot Families Distribution 1891 Census Data;

map; ancestry.com

England-1891

 

Scandinavians were apart of The Battle of Hastings (Rye/Rya), and the Battle of Stamford Bridge near York, 1066, which leads me to believe my Y-DNA, came into the region about this time.

Norman Barony Naming Convention is being used to find the locality in where my Y-DNA line arrives in the British Isles.

The two localities which are surnames and place names are Gresham Y-DNA L21, and Scarborough Y-DNA U106.

THE ORIGIN OF SOME ENGLISH PLACE NAMES
By Tim Lambert

BURY, BOROUGH
This is usually a corruption of burh, which meant a fort of fortified place. Aylesbury was Aegel’s burh or burgh. Boarhunt was burh funta the spring by the fort. Narborough in Leicestershire was nor (north) burh. 

Like in Scarborough;

Scarborough1

One can see a fort on the shield.

HAM
Ham meant village or estate. Rotherham was the village by the Rother.

Like in Gresham.

Y-DNA migrations of L21 and U106 along with 1881 English census surname distributions show localities of where Germanic-Anglo-Danish people settled;

U106 P311 M269 grouping

Gresham surname distribution 1881Scarborough suname distribution 1881

 

Scandinavian place name map

 

The Gresham and Scarborough, likely sharing common characteristics moves over time toward a common locality in between their former locations.

As one can see the frequency of Scandinavian names is high at the locality the Scarborough and Gresham are the most dense in 1881.

Log into Family Tree DNA and click on advanced matches;

Family Tree DNA adv matching 11-9-2014

For basic Y-DNA matches of the Daniel Elliott Grouping, named after Daniel Elliot which made testimony for the Salem Witch Trials 1692.

The following contain M269 which becomes U106 and L21

Dan Group; U106 Proto-Germanic

James D. Watson Craig Venter respectively Scottish and German

 

charts; familytreedna.com

Border Reivers matches for M S Elliott 11-9-2014

First check Y-DNA12 only, and leave name blank.

Y-DNA12 with last name blank

 

Note which surnames are utilized the most;

Example for myself given 12 markers;

12 markers M S Elliott 11-9-2014 Family Tree DNA

Names came out Cave, Dennis, Grisham, and Scarborough. 

Cave M269;

Cave 22 Y-DNA R-M269 11-9-2014

 

For Cave the count is 22, twelve marker exact matches.

Dennis U106;

Dennis 10 8-R-U106 11-9-2014

 

For Dennis the count is 10, twelve marker exact matches. 

The surname Dennis, unlike the surnames Gresham, Cave, and Scarborough does not have geographic locality, but the surname distribution map shows Dennis covers these or near regions of the locations of Gresham, Cave, and Scarborough;

Dennis surname distribution map 1881

 

Grisham, Gresham, Grissom L21;

For Gresham the count is 7, twelve marker exact matches.

Gresham-7-6-R-L211

 

For Grisham the count is 4, twelve marker exact matches.

Grisham-4-2-R-M264-11-9-20141

Grisham of Gresham

Andrew Fletcher Grisham still lives in ancestory of James Gresham, b 1420 d 1497 of Holt of Gresham region, and felt that the name Gresham came from living in Gresham previous to surname adoption and may have first been a ….de (of) Gresham then became the Norman barony of Gresham surname Gresham.

 

Grissom 7 4-M269 11-9-2014

For Grissom the count is 7, twelve marker exact matches.

4+7+7=18 total hits for Grisham variants.

Scarborough U106;

Scarborough 8 5-R-U106 11-9-2014

For Scarborough the count is 8, twelve marker exact matches.

 

Cave 22, Dennis 10, Grisham variants 18, and Scarborough 8.

U106 P311 M269 grouping

Scarborough (U106) North Yorkshire is like my surname Elliott goes north, and it’s geograpic location is the furthest north,  N&S Cave (M268) East Riding, Yorkshire could go anywhere the three geographic localities are but is in the center,  Gresham (L21) Norfolk, origins.

 

saxmap

It should be noted to have these sizable numbers in geographic name groups, indicates all names are likely beyond applied surnames, and the ones which are mapped, names which are used, their families are likely from the corresponding given localities, and this information would be of value to those names listed knowing the their origins is from and geographic-surname; Norman barony location, which is now a town or city.

Different surnames are likely beyond genealogical data, and previous to surname adoption.

different surnames

M Elliott     11/9/2014

Personal to surname evolution corresponding to my Y-DNA grouping.

U106 Y-DNA along with name changes personal then surname

pre El- sufix -wald migration

y-dnar1b-u106_u198-ethnoancestry

U106 pie charts seems to support migration pattern.

 

Though the map above seems to weight towards Frisia, excellent calculations by Robert P. Elliott  of my Y-DNA  group show that Germany by far holds the minimum.

 Regions of likelihood for people carrying Y-DNA of Daniel Elliot who testified in Salem to be from;

DNA-distance-steps-by-RP

 

Thank you, Robert P. Elliott for more information, though chose to alter name of cluster to the Dan Cluster, feel the name is more extensive and takes away from the witch trials Daniel.   Dan is a nickname for Daniel, and an alias for Andrew which it is felt the name evolved from.

The name Andrew Elwald appears as a witness when Robert Elwald receives land of Redheugh and Lariston.  Most used name by the Elliott and Armstrong families is John, and a John Elwald was rector of St Andrews University 1418, and became rector of Kirkandrews (kirk; church) in the region of the debatable lands in 1423. It is the cross of St Andrews on the Scottish flag, and St Andrews is a Scandinavian saint mentored by St John, where forms of Johnson, and Anderson are popular Scandinavian names.

Though it is feel this is Robert’s (Bob’s) choice, I would rather call it after Andrew (Dan), and Daniel (Dan) the Dan Cluster.

Dan Cluster DNA U106 S12025Osborne

 

Elg (elk/moose);

Fairy-Bear-R-P-Elliott

 

Borne; (Osborne, Osbern U106, bear);

Records of Siward's Sons Osbern

Robertson; son of Robert (Scandinavian convention), Gordon, and Alexander Gordon on ship with Daniel Elliot to the American Plantation ca 1652,  Osborne one of my Quaker lines out of North Carolina, a Sarah Osborne, of of the earlier witches executed in Salem, likely of the Osborne; Beverly Quaker furniture makers, also a Borne/Osborne name associated with the Fairbairn/Armstrong Clans.

Robert Elwald of Remington 1305 father Alan pledge of Jarum

Allen/Alan; Alan a surname found in Liddesdale in 1376 along with Alexandir Armystrand. Alanus Elfwoldus a Latin form of Alan Elwald found in Bec, Norfolk, East Anglia, 1248.  It is felt that and son of Elfwald named Alan likely to Elfwald as a surname then became Alan Elfwald.  In the same pattern for example a John the son of this same Alan could have became John Alan, and later John Allen.

As one can see that ca 1305, Robert Elwald of Rimington, Lancashire (of W. Riding Yorkshire in 1305) is the son of Alan, with a pledge Francis de (of) Jarum, the old Anglo-Saxon community of Jarrow.

An early forming of Alan Elwald near Crowland/Croyland may be found about 1125;

Aldano filio Alfwald Alan son of Elfwald

12-marker exact matches map for MS Elliott

familytreedna.com;

displaced borderers

 

Newer one 6/1/2015;

R-U106 for MSE

Elliot surname distribution, shows localities of Briton, France, and Denmark.

Elliot name distributionDNA

 

Viking Expansion from Norway, Sweden, and Denmark.

Scandinavian map Danish Norse

2/1/2015

U106 Proto-Germanic;

U106 proto-germanic

 

Pre-Migration of Pro-Germanic Tribes;

Protp-Germanic, pre-migration period

 

Suffix -wald -walde (forest);

map google-

For the Elgfold/Elkwald/Elfwald/Elwald/Ellot/Elliot, the distribution of the German Ewald give with the “l” extracted would give similarities where the Elwald (Elchwald, Elgwald, Elfwald) are from.

Ewald Elwald U106 surname distributions (1)

The crescents of the German Ewald, and the Northumubria Elwald show similarities, inclusive of a tree, but the Elwald have the King/St Elwald stag’s head.

German Ewald and Robert Elwald crest comparisons.

 

Germam region of -wald suffix

Other Elliot-Armstrong-Fairbairn;

Elliot-Elliott-Armstrong-and-Fairbairn

Non-paternity event;

NPE DNA Armstrong Elliot Fairbairn

NPE DNA

MSE  4/23/2016

Robert Bell, links the Armstrong and Elliott, to Fermanagh, Ulster, (Northern Scots-Irish) Ireland.

‘Sheep stealers from the north of England’: the Riding Clans in Ulster by Robert Bell

In the answer of Rich Rucker’s question the people of the bear, and elk (moose), are linked.

From; Chronicles of the Armstrongs; : Armstrong, James Lewis Armstrong editor. It should be noted that surnames were not in use in 1165, and the group was referred to as Elwald (people of the wood(s)). The Elwald people where felt to be assign the surname Elwald in Liddesdale during the fifteenth century, and in the sixteenth century about the time of the Reformation the Anglo-Danish surname Elwald became the Norman-French surname from Elot to Ellot(t), with double “l“s and no “i“.

Rich Rucker, Clan Armstrong DNA, Question

1/15/2017  MSE

Belinda Dettmann (good question from Graham FTDNA Activity Feed)

Mark, you seem to match a group of Elliotts, so why wouldn’t your name be Elliott, which is of Scottish origin? Admittedly the R-U106 Elliotts are not in the largest Elliott line (which is R-L21>L193) and your lot could all have come from somewhere in Germany well back in time, but I suspect they came via Scotland.

 

 

Mark Elliott to Belinda Dettmann

Kit#101829 M269>U106>S12025>S16361>A6719 Tested R-L21 negative.

https://gorrenberry.com/proto-germanic-r-u106-haplogroup-dna-elwald-elliot/

https://gorrenberry.com/rich-rucker-clan-armstrong-dna-question/

A. Elch/Elk Elchwald Elkwald (Ewald Eichwald today’s Germany), Germany with Elch/Elk, Ewald (Elwald), and Eichwald (Elchwald), near Poland and Czech Republic.

B. Elgwalt/Elgwald ELG (Denmark), ELK (north Germany/UK), ELCH (south Germany), are forms of MOOSE (US/Canada).

C. Aldano filio Alfwald, Alan son of Elfwald to become Alan Elwald 1125. Croyland/Crowland, Lincolnshire.

1. Alan Elfwold (Elwald) of Bec, Norfolk, E Anglia, 1248 (near Gresham)

2. Robert Elwald of Oulton, Suffolk 1290 (Oulton Broad, Lowestoft, Suffolk, UK) of Norfolk/Rimington, Lancashire (W. Riding Yorkshire in 1304). https://gorrenberry.com/robert-elwald-clan-elliot-chief-1/

3. Robert 2

4. Robert 3

5. Robert 4

6. Robert 5

7. Robert 6

8. Robert 7

9. Robert 8

10. Robert 9

11. William Elwald of Gorrenberry, Liddesdale, Scotland

12. Robert Elwald (Archeis Hob) of Gorrenberry (adopted by uncle Archibald)

13. Andrew (Dand the Cowie) Elwald of Horsleyhill

14. Robert Elwald of Stobs/Gorrenberry (Clementis Hobs)

15. Dand-Daniel Ellott/Elliot/Elliott of Scotland/Tullykelter, Fermanagh, Ulster, Ireland. https://gorrenberry.com/daniel-elliott-1610-ulster-likely-catholic-then-anglican/ http://www.elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Dand-to-Daniel.pdf

16. Robert Ellot Tullykelter, Fermanagh, Ulster, Ireland

17. Daniel Ellot/Elliot of Tullykelter/Massachusetts, American Plantation https://gorrenberry.com/daniel-elliot-boston-scotland-3222015/

18. Daniel Elliot Salem Trials, Massachusetts, American Plantation https://gorrenberry.com/daniel-elliot-otter-neck-salem-village-salem-end/

19. Johnathan Sr

20. Johnathan Jr

21. John (The American Plantation, becomes the United States of America)

22. Comfort

23. Sherburn Amando of Iowa, USA

24. Amando Wilcox

25. Mark

26. Loren Spencer http://www.elwald.com/genealogy-by-dad-loren-s/

27. Mark Stephen (myself) in New Mexico on the Colorado Plateau containing the Grand Canyon (Cañon Grande). Near where four states New Mexico, Arizona, Utah and Colorado, come together to make four corners.

Above links, a very small part of generations of research.

Stobs, Horseyhill, and Gorrenberry are of Scotland, late fifteenth, sixteenth, and very early seventeenth century.

Infinis has been approved, by a representative of the Scottish Government (a reporter), in the same fashion (a reporter) for the Scottish Border Fallago Rig, with obviously the same results to industrially being destructive to The Borderlands, by approving the Infinis Windy Edge wind farm between Gorranberry, and The Hermitage Castle on homeland of an acting Elwald/Ellot chief, in defense of Mary Queen of Scots/Bothwell’s castle The Hemitage Castle, by placing Windy Edge wind farm between Gorrenberry and The Hermitage Castle, on Martin Ellot’s homeland of Braidley.

http://www.elwald.com/hermitage-castles-infinis-windy-edge/

PRESERVATION is what I believe in. Preservation of The Hermitage Castle region, to not be destroyed by industrialization, and my own Y-DNA Chromosomal Line, not be destroyed by corporate profits, which comes out of the DNA of many families which have placed DATA for their own used not to be told that the family line did not take that course. Family DNA if it does not support a part of the family lineal history then it is incorrect and can be utilized in a manner, of people of Norman, strata level, not of a shared genealogical information level, but in a manner to destroy the history already established the genealogy of a given family.

MSE 3/21/2017

4/1/2017 MSE

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